Ocean11 0 Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 Does anybody have any experience with investing in specifically environmentally friendly and socially progressive funds? Can you recommend any sources of information or specific brokers? As long as I can get a better return than Japan, I figure I might as well invest some money in something that interests me... Link to post Share on other sites
indosnm 0 Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 not sure about environmentally safe but you can invest in some Japan funds. I made a little bundle a few years ago. What about the whaling fund? its scientific! Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted November 6, 2004 Author Share Posted November 6, 2004 While I have an open mind on whaling, it's not something I want to be bunging my money at as a first priority. What did you make a bundle on? Link to post Share on other sites
indosnm 0 Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 a managed fund investing in Japanese companies. returned over 100% in the first year. but that was back in 2000. Link to post Share on other sites
nagoid 4 Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 And I'm sure that wasn't particularly environmentally safe.... Link to post Share on other sites
indosnm 0 Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 probably not but tell me one that is..with that kind of return or even more than 5%.. not too many out there i think, unless you are investing in the hippies near Byron. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted November 8, 2004 Author Share Posted November 8, 2004 A well-rounded portfolio of ethical investments should do as well or better than conventional dodgy ones. As long as it offers better rates of return than Japanese banks, I'll be happy. I'm not interested in making easy money that screws up other people's lives. Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Ocean, define 'ethical'. I can find out some ethical co's in the UK for you, but by my definition of 'ethical' i'd research company's for myself, and then invest in them, come hell or high water, as long as they continue to manage the company appropriately and/or head in the right direction. Even with an 'ethical' firm, you may find they trade for maximum short-term profit, and not the health of the companies they're 'investing' in. Find a broker, do your own research in a couple of companies you believe will make a diference and a profit in the mid-long term and you'll be serving your conscience and maybe still make a killing. Here's a link to an off-shore broker, online access to most euro/North American markets... don't have to be ethical if you're choosing the stock. http://www.internaxx.lu/English/index.asp Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted November 9, 2004 Author Share Posted November 9, 2004 Ethical means anything that tends towards sustainable business, and that promotes fair trade. It favours companies that have environmental policies and progressive social policies. It is limited to companies that provide necessary products and services. I think a definition like that would preclude ever 'making a killing', literally or figuratively. I've found some brokers in the UK that specialize in ethical investments, but I wondered if anybody had any got any further than that and could make recommendations. www.the-ethical-partnership.co.uk www.ethicalmoney.org www.ethicalinvestors.co.uk/pensionssite/ www.triodos.co.uk/ Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Quote: Originally posted by Ocean11: [QB] I think a definition like that would preclude ever 'making a killing', literally or figuratively. Sure you can, if you're invested in R and D, or in the right 'ethical' company when the law changes to punish polluters or removes artificial price barriers, etc. I understand the 'ethical' regarding a company's way of doing business, I just wonder if all brokerages claiming to manage 'ethical' funds trade in those companies 'ethically' or just trade in a regular fashion from a list of certified 'ethical' companies. If their funds are posting higher returns than the individual companies they're investing in, then I would say they weren't entirely ethical. If they're posting lower returns, why would one go through a fund? If you're just buying shares, the ethical bent of the broker is irrelevent. Anyway, i'd be interested to here what you come up with. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted November 11, 2004 Author Share Posted November 11, 2004 Here's a list of Japanese SRI funds (in Japanese) www.csrjapan.jp/sri/iandf/kokunai.html Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted November 11, 2004 Author Share Posted November 11, 2004 And information on SRI in Japan in English http://www.goodbankers.co.jp/ Link to post Share on other sites
woywoy 0 Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Where is DBs response on this one? Or, maybe there is no such thing as "ethical" investments? Link to post Share on other sites
indosnm 0 Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Quote: Originally posted by woywoy: Where is DBs response on this one? Or, maybe there is no such thing as "ethical" investments? O11, I got a good one for you. I am looking for investors to finance my next project which will be 100% evnvironmental. On return I plan to return to Oz and grow "tomato's". The initial investment will finance the purchase of land on quality seeds. I can guarantee a fixed rate of 200% on the first years crop with options to extend and purchase a bigger share in the enterprise. No chemicals, no lights ( would be more profitable if we did use, but I realise your boundries) email for a full prospectus today! Link to post Share on other sites
giggsy 0 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Here is a good investment that I strongly encourage you to join: http://www.shareholdersunited.org/why7.php Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I'm not sure Ocey-babes would be too into that idea Link to post Share on other sites
Oyuki kigan 0 Posted November 18, 2004 Share Posted November 18, 2004 I know the the mag "Mother Jones" is kinda aimed at a progressive middle-upper class tax bracket, and they have alot of ads from companies that bill themselves as ethical, and maybe some tips on investing. Good luck Link to post Share on other sites
bobby12 0 Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 funnily enough I have just been looking into investing myself today. The Halifax do an investment fund called 'ethical' which you might wanna look at: https://www.halifax.co.uk/investments/our_fundrange.shtml and I found this useful too - london stock exchange Link to post Share on other sites
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