Alexander L 80 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 That's a wonderful suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander L 80 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Brian, your kids want to ski or just feel the snow? How romantic are you thinking for the proposal? Vomit romantic or just tears in her eyes? Link to post Share on other sites
Brian168 0 Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share Posted May 15, 2014 Brian, your kids want to ski or just feel the snow? How romantic are you thinking for the proposal? Vomit romantic or just tears in her eyes? Feel the snow, then a day of ski lessons. Vomit romantic sounds expensive, I'll save that for the wedding. Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander L 80 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 OK, got it. So what kinda budget? You will be struggling to do skiing in Kyushu, average in Dec is about 20cm. Link to post Share on other sites
Brian168 0 Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share Posted May 15, 2014 OK, got it. So what kinda budget? You will be struggling to do skiing in Kyushu, average in Dec is about 20cm. Thanks for telling me about that. I checked the snow depths on this website but haven't the foggiest what's the adequate amount to go skiing in. As for budget, again no clue on how much these things cost. If we're talking hotels, I'm ok with 3-4 stars. If we're talking snow clothes, ski rentals, tutoring fees etc. kindly refer to the "haven't a foggiest/no clue" remarks. Link to post Share on other sites
surfarthur 22 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 If you were to travel all the way to Hokkaido, what about staying in Sapporo? For the skiing you could get on a shuttle from your hotel to Teine or Kokusai, but if you decide you don't really like it you will still have plenty of other things to see and do. Link to post Share on other sites
Brian168 0 Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share Posted May 15, 2014 If you were to travel all the way to Hokkaido, what about staying in Sapporo? For the skiing you could get on a shuttle from your hotel to Teine or Kokusai, but if you decide you don't really like it you will still have plenty of other things to see and do. Thank you for the suggestion. All those places are new to me but I'll be sure to do my research. After a dozen times in Japan I've never been up north farther than Tokyo. Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander L 80 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 OK, Very rough estimate. 1) Clothes for 2 kids and 2 adults, pants, jacket, inner layers, gloves, beanie, goggles. Ski boots and skis can be hired. I can't see this being done for less than 200,000. 2) Airfares to Winter Wonderland from Kyushu, 20,000 each on AirDo. 3) Transportation to hotel, perhaps at resort or in Sapporo, 4 seats, 20,000. 4) Hotel per night, 40,000 for family in one room. 5) Food per person per day, 10,000. 6) Lessons, lift passes. The world is your oyster. Mate, I don't think it's doable since you're still struggling with the ring. Good luck to you. Link to post Share on other sites
Brian168 0 Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share Posted May 15, 2014 OK, Very rough estimate. 1) Clothes for 2 kids and 2 adults, pants, jacket, inner layers, gloves, beanie, goggles. Ski boots and skis can be hired. I can't see this being done for less than 300,000. 2) Airfares to Winter Wonderland from Kyushu, 20,000 each on AirDo. 3) Transportation to hotel, perhaps at resort or in Sapporo, 4 seats, 20,000. 4) Hotel per night, 40,000 for family in one room. 5) Food per person per day, 10,000. 6) Lessons, lift passes. The world is your oyster. Mate, I don't think it's doable since you're still struggling with the ring. Good luck to you. Sonofa... Pardon my ignorance, we have winter clothes but not snow clothes, the latter (jacket, gloves, goggles etc) can't be rented? I thought skiing would be something akin to scuba diving, something I know a lot about, wherein you can come into a dive shop in a shirt/shorts/flip flops and rent an entire scuba gear with wetsuit, mask, snorkel, gloves and fins. Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander L 80 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 ahhhh... yes you can. Fullset of skiwear, the basic stuff, around 5,000 per kid and 7,000 per adult. That's the info from the Resort information from the SnowJapan main site. You want to look there for some great info. Personally, I would never rent clothing. But that's just me. Link to post Share on other sites
Brian168 0 Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share Posted May 15, 2014 Trust me, it's not something I want to do either. But just like the thousands of foreign divers that try out diving for the first time and rent the whole kit and caboodle, the costs overshadow the unpleasant feeling of using rented attire. Again, my sincere appreciation for taking the time to enumerate the financial part as well as tell me of the various aspects of trying out skiing. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I would deffo never rent underwear. Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Jim 65 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Fly to Tokyo, take bullet train to Echigo Yuzawa. Book Hotel New Otani at NASPA, and keep in mind you're in peak of peak season for cost when there are no deals. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 It's not actually Hotel New Otani at NASPA. It's NASPA New Otani, seperate companies in the group. The Yuzawa New Otani Hotel is a main New Otani. Both here: http://www.snowjapan.com/japan-places-to-stay/area/yuzawa-niigata Link to post Share on other sites
Brian168 0 Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 Fly to Tokyo, take bullet train to Echigo Yuzawa. Book Hotel New Otani at NASPA, and keep in mind you're in peak of peak season for cost when there are no deals. Thanks for the succinct reply. And yes you're right about costs, and crowds, are going to be a pain. Link to post Share on other sites
Brian168 0 Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 It's not actually Hotel New Otani at NASPA. It's NASPA New Otani, seperate companies in the group. The Yuzawa New Otani Hotel is a main New Otani. Both here: http://www.snowjapan.com/japan-places-to-stay/area/yuzawa-niigata Thanks for clearing that up, one less aspect to the confusion that is my vacation! Link to post Share on other sites
Gunma Boarder 14 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Tenjindaira in Gunma on a bluebird day would make an excellent proposal spot. Also pretty easy to get to from Tokyo. http://www.snowjapanforums.com/index.php/topic/23653-tanigawadake-tenjindaira-minakami-gunma-24th-january-2014/page__hl__tenjindaira__fromsearch__1 Link to post Share on other sites
onehunga 26 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 How about Mt Rokko. Mt Rokko overlooks Kobe, has a number of good hotels, easy to get to with public transport, nice and romantic at night (the lights of Kobe) and has a snow park. It's not the place to go if you want to ski all day on great slopes (that's Mt Granview), but as an introduction to snow and skiing it would be great. There is no listing on SnowJapan but a quick google search should get you the info you need. If you then decided that you wanted to go to an actual ski resort there are plenty of day trips by bus from Kobe and Osaka. While generally the snow in that part of Japan is not great over the Christmas/New Year period I still got two days of good skiing from Osaka at New Years http://www.snowjapanforums.com/index.php/blog/20-onehungas-blog/ But wait there is more, there is also a Musical Box Museum, now how romantic is that. Link to post Share on other sites
Brian168 0 Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 Tenjindaira in Gunma on a bluebird day would make an excellent proposal spot. Also pretty easy to get to from Tokyo. http://www.snowjapan...__fromsearch__1 Wow, breathtaking indeed, thanks! Link to post Share on other sites
Brian168 0 Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 How about Mt Rokko. Mt Rokko overlooks Kobe, has a number of good hotels, easy to get to with public transport, nice and romantic at night (the lights of Kobe) and has a snow park. It's not the place to go if you want to ski all day on great slopes (that's Mt Granview), but as an introduction to snow and skiing it would be great. There is no listing on SnowJapan but a quick google search should get you the info you need. If you then decided that you wanted to go to an actual ski resort there are plenty of day trips by bus from Kobe and Osaka. While generally the snow in that part of Japan is not great over the Christmas/New Year period I still got two days of good skiing from Osaka at New Years http://www.snowjapan...onehungas-blog/ But wait there is more, there is also a Musical Box Museum, now how romantic is that. Very interesting ideas, I'll be sure to Google this more. Thanks very much! Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Tenjindaira in Gunma on a bluebird day would make an excellent proposal spot. Also pretty easy to get to from Tokyo. http://www.snowjapan...__fromsearch__1 Wow, breathtaking indeed, thanks! You could probably have your first child during the gondola ride getting up there! Link to post Share on other sites
Brian168 0 Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 Tenjindaira in Gunma on a bluebird day would make an excellent proposal spot. Also pretty easy to get to from Tokyo. http://www.snowjapan...__fromsearch__1 Wow, breathtaking indeed, thanks! You could probably have your first child during the gondola ride getting up there! Hahaha, I already have two. Single dad for almost a decade. I'd rather have my tubes tied! Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Well on the gondola up, you could deffo have time to have the operation and still recover in time for the riding Link to post Share on other sites
Brian168 0 Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 That long huh? Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 No. That slow. Link to post Share on other sites
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