TheOrange 0 Posted March 27, 2003 Share Posted March 27, 2003 ...and not on other, seemingly similar, slopes? Ocean was mentioning that Happo is one big mogul center right now, and I noticed that Happo seems to get a lot of moguls - but other places that have similar looking slopes don't get them as much. Can anyone explain why that might be happening? Link to post Share on other sites
Plucky 0 Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 It can often depend on the grooming practices of the resorts. Groomed slopes take a lot longer to get moguls formed where if a slope is left alone moguls will tend to form fairly quickly. When it's slushy, however, moguls can pop up anywhere. All depends on how hard the snow is packed. I've noticed at a lot of areas up north here, a line of Japanese will form a mogul path on purpose for practice. It's funny to watch 10-15 people skiing behind each other to create the bumps. Reminds me of 80's Warren Miller films. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 moguls just happen. turn and the snow gets built up on one side or the other. Snowboards make them as do skis. You cant groom everything, cause of steepness or policy. No new snow moguls or mounds. Link to post Share on other sites
IIIII 2 Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 They are of the devil. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 Fattwins, you keep saying that snowboards make moguls, but they don't. They may chop up the snow into bumps, but not with the same regularity as ski moguls or with anything like the troughs in between. I know this from having been down a run of ungroomed snow repeatedly with a crew of boarders and having given up when the snow was all pushed to the sides of the slope, or flattened, not formed into moguls. Hills that get a lot of skiers get a lot of moguls, and Happo has more skiers than boarders. I've seen advertising materials from Happo that feature their moguls as an attraction, so I assume they wouldn't do anything to discourage their formation. Moguls will form on steep slopes that require skiers to make tighter turns to control their speed. On less flat slopes they take a more looping line that doesn't dig the troughs so moguls don't form. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 Snowboards make moguls too. Unless you are sideslipping the slope then it is a law of science. Happo has moguls cause it doesnt or cant groom some of the steep stuff. If you get resorts to groom it they will always do it and there will be no fresh tracks there to be had. Skiers dont have to make tight turns but some people will. Coming down at the end of the day at happo is a boarders worse nightmare. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 > Unless you are sideslipping the slope then it is a law of science That's the point - that's what most snowboarders do on the steeps. It's very rare to find a snowboarder who carves precisely on a steep slope. I suspect that the stress laid on 'form' in skiing and the greater tendency of (Japanese?) skiers to ski in formation contributes to moguls too. Boarders just tend to go all over the place so their tracks aren't concentrated. (None of which need necessarily be taken as criticism of skiing...) Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted March 28, 2003 Share Posted March 28, 2003 None taken. I know of lots of areas in Canada where boarders mostly ride. I will admit that they dont make TRUE moguls, more like turning ruts in tight places. If you put only snowboarders at happo on usagi course for the day, it would not be flat but it would not be a TRUE mogul course either. I personal like well spaces bumps. Bumps you can hop one to the other or GS down. Whitewater has some nice well spaced ones in Canada. I know many snowboarders there who love em.. Link to post Share on other sites
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