Curt 1 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Friend sent me this below. Find it incredible how some parts of the world treat it's people. Are there not more important things to deal with? Hands up anyone on this forum in an 'interracial relationship'? Perhaps one or two. Quote: A local authority in Israel has announced that it is establishing a special team of youth counsellors and psychologists whose job it will be to identify young Jewish women who are dating Arab men and “rescue†them. The move by the municipality of Petah Tikva, a city close to Tel Aviv, is the latest in a series of separate – and little discussed – initiatives from official bodies, rabbis, private organisations and groups of Israeli residents to try to prevent interracial dating and marriage. In a related development, the Israeli media reported this month that residents of Pisgat Zeev, a large Jewish settlement in the midst of Palestinian neighbourhoods in East Jerusalem, had formed a vigilante-style patrol to stop Arab men from mixing with local Jewish girls. Hostility to intimate relationships developing across Israel’s ethnic divide is shared by many Israeli Jews, who regard such behaviour as a threat to the state’s Jewishness. One of the few polls on the subject, in 2007, found that more than half of Israeli Jews believed intermarriage should be equated with “national treasonâ€. Since the state’s founding in 1948, analysts have noted, a series of legal and administrative measures have been taken by Israel to limit the possibilities of close links developing between Jewish and Arab citizens, the latter comprising a fifth of the population. Largely segregated communities and separate education systems mean that there are few opportunities for young Arabs and Jews to become familiarised with each other. Even in the handful of “mixed citiesâ€, Arab residents are usually confined to separate neighbourhoods. In addition, civil marriage is banned in Israel, meaning that in the small number of cases where Jews and Arabs want to wed, they can do so only by leaving the country for a ceremony abroad. The marriage is recognised on the couple’s return. Dr Yuval Yonay, a sociologist at Haifa University, said the number of interracial marriages was “too small to be studiedâ€. “Separation between Jews and Arabs is so ingrained in Israeli society, it is surprising that anyone manages to escape these central controls.†The team in Petah Tikva, a Jewish city of 200,000 residents, was created in direct response to news that two Jewish girls, aged 17 and 19, were accompanying a group of young Arab men when they allegedly beat a Jewish man, Leonard Karp, to death last month on a Tel Aviv beach. The older girl was from Petah Tikva. The girls’ involvement with the Arab youths has revived general concern that a once-firm taboo against interracial dating is beginning to erode among some young people. In sentiments widely shared, Hezi Hakak, a spokesman for Petah Tikva municipality, said “Russian girlsâ€, young Jewish women whose parents arrived in Israel over the past two decades, since the former Soviet Union collapsed, were particularly vulnerable to the attention of Arab men. Dr Yonay said Russian women were less closed to the idea of relationships with Arab men because they “did not undergo the religious and Zionist education†to which more established Israeli Jews were subject. Mr Hakak said the municipality had created a hotline that parents and friends of the Jewish women could use to inform on them. “We can’t tell the girls what to do but we can send a psychologist to their home to offer them and their parents advice,†he said. Motti Zaft, the deputy mayor, told the Ynet website that the municipality was also cracking down on city homeowners who illegally subdivide apartments to rent them cheaply to single Arab men looking for work in the Tel Aviv area. He estimated that several hundred Arab men had moved into the city as a result. Petah Tikva’s hostility to Arab men mixing with local Jewish women is shared by other communities. In Pisgat Zeev, a settlement of 40,000 Jews, some 35 Jewish men are reported to belong to a patrol known as “Fire for Judaism†that tries to stop interracial dating. Unusually for a settlement, Pisgat Zeev has attracted a tiny but growing population of Arab families, both from East Jerusalem and from inside Israel. Because Pisgat Zeev sits within Jerusalem’s municipal borders, Arabs with Israeli residency rights can live there as long as Jewish settlers are willing to rent to them. One member, who identified himself as Moshe to the Jerusalem Post newspaper, said: “Our goal is to be in contact with these girls and try to explain to them the dangers of what they’re getting themselves into. In the last 10 years, 60 girls from Pisgat Zeev have gone into [Palestinian] villages [in the West Bank]. And most of them aren’t heard from after that.†He denied that violence or threats were used against Arab men. Last year, the municipality of Kiryat Gat, a town of 50,000 Jews in southern Israel, launched a programme in schools to warn Jewish girls of the dangers of dating local Bedouin men. The girls were shown a video titled Sleeping with the Enemy, which describes mixed couples as an “unnatural phenomenonâ€. Haim Shalom, head of the municipality’s welfare department, is filmed saying: “The girls, in their innocence, go with the exploitative Arab.†In 2004, posters sprang up all over the northern town of Safed warning Jewish women that dating Arab men would lead to “beatings, hard drugs, prostitution and crimeâ€. Safed’s chief rabbi, Shmuel Eliyahu, told a local newspaper that the “seducing†of Jewish girls was “another form of war†by Arab men. Both Kiryat Gat and Safed’s campaigns were supported by a religious organisation called Yad L’achim, which runs an anti-assimilation team publicly dedicated to “saving†Jewish women. According to its website, the organisation receives more than 100 calls a month about Jewish women living with Arab men, both in Israel and the West Bank. It launches “military-like rescues [of the women] from hostile Arab villages†in co-ordination with the police and army. “The Jewish soul is a precious, all-too-rare resource, and we are not prepared to give up on even a single one,†says the website. Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 And Jews wonder why they have been hated and persecuted throughout history Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Maybe they should give Palestine back to the Palestinians. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Why do people waste their time on such things. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Originally Posted By: thursday Maybe they should give Palestine back to the Palestinians. Poetic justice would be a new Balfour Declaration from somebody else giving a big slice of Britain to give the Jews. Link to post Share on other sites
gerard 6 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 What's the source? Is the quote inflamatory propaganda or is the whole country really that f'ed up? There are lots of screwed up places like that but places like the USA actually view Isreal as a civilized place... Link to post Share on other sites
stemik 14 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 i wonder what it would be like if it was the other way round with an Arab girl dating a Jewish man..... Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Originally Posted By: ger What's the source? Is the quote inflamatory propaganda or is the whole country really that f'ed up? There are lots of screwed up places like but places like the USA actually view Isreal as a civilized place... Americans actually believe the US is a civilized place as well, so I wouldn't trust their judgement too much Link to post Share on other sites
kokodoko 67 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 oh the irony. Victims -> persecutors -> Victims Link to post Share on other sites
indosnm 0 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 watch a show called race relations ( can Dl or find on abc oz) pretty fuuny and touches on the subject (just don't tell Harry Connick Jnr) Link to post Share on other sites
kokodoko 67 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 is that with John Saffran. my tv doesnt work anyway... doh! Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 On the bright side, if folks have nothing more pressing to worry about than who is dating whom, then peace must finally have broken out over there. So that's good news, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
seemore 66 Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Wow Did anyone actually read all that was written? All things that matter are relative to the individual. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Originally Posted By: Mr Wiggles Originally Posted By: thursday Maybe they should give Palestine back to the Palestinians. Poetic justice would be a new Balfour Declaration from somebody else giving a big slice of Britain to give the Jews. Give them Morcambe and they can take Glasgow as well Link to post Share on other sites
kokodoko 67 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Give them Northern Ireland. That will teach them to be fascists. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Missing it here. Those women covered from head to toe in a burka, they're banned from dating anyone. Link to post Share on other sites
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