RobBright 35 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Been offered a couple of teaching jobs recently - one of head teacher and the other as a kindergarten teacher and thinking about how much to ask for. am currently on 310,000 a month and now we are talking about money for the new jobs. How much should I realistically ask for/expect in the new positions? Am thinking maybe 10% more? Is this too high/low? Ta for advice Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 this has nothing to do with snow dooode Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted February 8, 2008 Author Share Posted February 8, 2008 off topic dude Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 how many years experience do you have teechin? Quals? Japanese ability? Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted February 8, 2008 Author Share Posted February 8, 2008 4 1/2 years - TESOL, TEYL and MA from september, JLPT lvl 3 but doing 2 this year. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 ask for more than expected and settle for less. Ask for 40man at least I say. Bonus 2x/year too. 3 months paid vacation. Why not ask for a sexy secretary too Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 I got the salary I wanted but forgot to ask for at least 4 days off/month, DOH!!! Link to post Share on other sites
samurai 0 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 MA from September in 2007 or 08? Personally, I won't settle for anything less than a yearly salary equivalent to the cost of my education. If you haven't finished yet, perhaps they will be willing to pay some of your tuition? A big request here in Japan, but standard practice back in the states. I don't know how anyone could afford to live with a Master's on 4man. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 >I don't know how anyone could afford to live with a Master's on 4man. If you get 6 months of your base salary, and its 40 man or more, thats not a bad deal mate. I get 6 months worth of bonus and love it....just dont get any vacation. Link to post Share on other sites
bobby12 0 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 So a teacher in Japan with a masters should be on: 480man base (40man/month) + 240man bonuses ('6 months of bonus') ------- 720man Overpaid or reasonable? Link to post Share on other sites
me jane 0 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 I think that's reasonable for an experienced teacher bobby 12. It also depends on the holidays. Just started Masters middle of last year. Teach ESL & do copy editing at a huge eye clinic. I get 480man a year including bonuses. Also get housing for only 2man a month & a childcare allowance of up to 5man a month. 36 paid hols + 2 days off a week (don't get National hols). I think it's a pretty good deal. Still struggle though cos Me Tarzan's bar still has loads of loans, my uni course is so expensive and most of my holidays are going on the teaching pracs I have to do. Still that's all self inflicted Link to post Share on other sites
stemik 14 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 forget about the money - move to the moutains and enjoy the quality of life.. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 Originally Posted By: bobby12 So a teacher in Japan with a masters should be on: 480man base (40man/month) + 240man bonuses ('6 months of bonus') ------- 720man Overpaid or reasonable? 480 man base? Ya mean 40, right? Thats bout what I am on...so I cant say its overpaid but Im definitely undervacationed Get with a good JHS/HS/Uni and youre set. Link to post Share on other sites
me jane 0 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 480 man base? Ya mean 40, right? I think he means 480 annual base (40 per month x 12) Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 my bad Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted February 8, 2008 Author Share Posted February 8, 2008 Wow - should work harder for this masters then - get myself into the bracket. Just deciding now on the masters - either education, linguistics or TESOL. Leaning towards one of the first. Link to post Share on other sites
me jane 0 Posted February 8, 2008 Share Posted February 8, 2008 I'm doing Master of Teaching (Primary) cos it's the only one that qualifies you for teacher certification. Mine is with CSU in Australia cos with them you can do the whole thing from Japan. Link to post Share on other sites
indosnm 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 CSU.. which Uni? Link to post Share on other sites
me jane 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Charles Sturt Uni Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Once youre on the Japanese system where youre paid by your age (sounds stupid I know) you go up a decent bit every year. Some teachers at my school are surely making 1300man/year. Uni profs get a bit more as well. Link to post Share on other sites
bobby12 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I remember seeing one site (in Japanese) where they explained the salary system for teachers in SHS and IIRC the avarage salary was about 500man/year for a 35 year old. I saw a similar one for city office workers and the salary came to roughly the same amount. Link to post Share on other sites
me jane 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Government salaries are always going to be much lower than the private sector. Also those published salaries don't include things like the subsidised housing & insurance to which public teachers are often entitled so you have to factor in those kinds of benefits too when comparing. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 private schools quite often pay better than public schools too. thats true too MJ, I didnt factor in my housing allowance, HR teacher subsidy, and a couple other things as well. But I find myself asking if its worth it when there isnt much time off... Link to post Share on other sites
tripitaka 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 It looks like people here are making much more that your average "off-the-boat" ESL teacher. I know some people who teach in the corporate sector and they do alright. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 definitely doing MUCH better than my paltry salary!! I gotta get my ass in gear and get me some better quals and hook a better paid job!! Link to post Share on other sites
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