PWL

Back home and back to reality! I'll post some more (possibly highly controverial*) thoughts soon. * things like... I liked Place A, I didn't really like Place B as much.

Well my time here in Japan has seemed very short, I really don't want to go back home. Way too fast. But I have to, tomorrow morning.

So cute!

Just a general point but loved the food here on my trip.

Fabulous!

Yes in Kyoto now, going back home tomorrow morning so last day now. Will report more when I get back.

OK time to move on! I loved Shiga Kogen, much prefer it to Hakuba. I think photos and more will have to wait until I get back home next week, want to make the most of my time here.

Went to see them yesterday they were so cool. I really enjoyed it there. Your photos are astonishing muikabochi. I have some snaps but there's no point in posting them with what you have put here. I'll put a few in my Shiga Kogen report though. Brilliant.

Never to return to this thrad.

Haha. It lived up to them for sure. What a fantastic day today has been. I think my face might be bright red come tonight. Time for an onsen. I'll report more sometime when I can.

Really enjoying Shiga Kogen! And this morning the sun is out and it looks like it will be a beautiful day. Can't wait to get out there! I will report more later.

Originally Posted By: Mamabear PWL, I am sorry that your innocent, honest sharing was met with such a response - I sure hope it doesn't scare you off continuing to share with us. The more people, the more personal variance in discussion, the better. Ski, I reckon it takes a LOT for people to stop 'towing the party line' - I have JUST this week encountered dissension amongst the ranks at the kids school - previously a very strong party line, and I was made to feel stupid for my concerns - however this week I learned of at least two front line staff prepared to cross that line and share the

Ah, so I'm an idiot now?! That's nice. If you look at my original post, I was hardly having a great big moan about things. I simply said I was having fun but I was a bit disappointed in that aspect. That is all! It has now become this huge argument between people who seem very highly strung up about it all. Originally Posted By: Go Native You're staying in Echoland? No, I wasn't staying in Echoland. Quote: You didn't want to be in an area with many foreigners and yet you ended up in Echoland in Hakuba! You idiot... I didn't end up in Echoland. But

You can dish it up however you want. OK OK. Here is what I experienced and saw, with my very own eyes (and this is just in response to your % theme) - bars that were literally 100% non-Japanese, probably 75% of them male; - people walking round Echoland / Wadanomori, I would say easily 80%+ non-Japanese. And I did find a few places that were not overrun by non-Japanese, the accommodation owner told me about them so I don't see that "would probably be full of nobody" either. They were fun and lively, not empty.

Yes, I'm all girl.

I 'started it'?! I suppose the I'm just not allowed to say that I'm disappointed. How sad that is. Oh well, I'm off to Shiga Kogen next and really looking forward to it.

Originally Posted By: Jynxx I call it a common tourist complex. Don´t wanna have too many of your kind around when you go somewhere. Hmmmm, er, no, no 'complex', nothing so deep! Just a bit of disappointment, that's all. Is that not allowed? Originally Posted By: Jynxx I'm sure if she were surrounded by Hongkong-ite she wouldn´t have a clue. Well I would actually have a clue, not that it really matters. It's funny, the atmosphere of this thread is like the one in the bar the other night in Hakuba. Haha. I quickly got out of that too.

Wow amazing muikabochi. I can't believe you took them when I was there! I haven't seen much of those backdrop mountains at all while I have been here unfortunately.

Tex quoted me too, and I wasn't implying that at all either! I have had a lot of fun in Hakuba, but going to a bar that is 100% gaijin, I could be anywhere in the world. It wasn't what I was expecting and like I said quite disappointing really. The Japanese owner of the place told me about a few places and I enjoyed visiting them and felt more like I was in Japan. There were still foreigners there, but some Japanese too haha. Phew! It will be interesting to see how Shiga Kogen compares.

Originally Posted By: panhead_pete If you want a good feed tomorrow night the BBQ at the Whitehorse in Echoland is always a good feed but it will be a lot of westerners. Cheers, I now know where not to go tomorrow night!

Good day today at 47/Goryu. I took some snaps so I will upload sometime in the next few days. But.... is this actually Japan?! Wouldn't think it with pretty much everyone walking around being a foreigner. Not so much on the slopes, but the place I was at this evening for a meal there wasn't a Japanese person there, just hordes of foreign males! Must say, disappointed in that aspect.

Snowiung quite heavily in Hakuba. Where's the mountains?!

Well, it feels like winter here in Hakuba today!

OK so I arrived in Hakuba yesterday, this seems to have been 'planning' for years! But so glad to get here at last. I can't see much because it is snowing but hoping to have some great days here before I make my way down to the Kyoto area early next week. Do I win a prize for the "longest planning"?

I don't usually like games much but that Donkey Kong one is a lot of fun, I highly recommend it.