Thanks CreekBoy, I know Hirafu's nighter is sweet, just at Higashiyama last few seasons, we could get some sweet runs especially as we were staying right in the area. Guess will have to make it to Hirafu's, and it is probably one, if not the best nighter in the world. I know the ones in eastern Quebec are only good if you are into playing hockey ala Guy Lafleur.