brit-gob

Then that is your choice and their loss isn't it Ocean? But in the minds of the business bods behind the resort, your "non-mainstream" tastes are not worth it. The reason for which I do not know and neither do you - as we are not running a ski resort business in Japan and so we could not know. The fact remains that it's their choice, they want to make money, and they do the best they can with the resources available and the constraints they are working to. And to say that they are all just crap marketers is just a bit naive, and too easy to just say.

...that resorts are not consumer-oriented?!! Haha - see the "double standards" thread....

Who is this Ocean11 bloke anyway? Part of the site? Anyone met him?

Agreed with you too mogski, although it is not quite as simple as you make it out. As a matter of interest, some resorts have reduced charges this year. And from what I have heard it has had little or no effect on the number / market share for that resort. Fact remains that the majority of people are willing to spend a bit more to enjoy their "ski life" at their PREFERRED resort rather than save a little bit to ski somewhere they don't really want to.....that is not the mindset of many ski and board consumers. After all we are talking about a pastime that is considered a "luxury" o

Just so no-one misses this GREAT thread! http://www.skijapanguide.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000973.html Interesting discussion in progress!

Yeah I know what ya saying danz, but have you ever wondered WHY money is not being put into those facilities. The answer to that one is real simple - they do not have the resources to do that. They really don't have the cash. And please don't anyone come back with the "well it costs 5000 yen for a day out there". Remember that from April to November their income is - oh - close to zero.

A big "not". I have just come off the slopes of Ishiuchi Maruyama - great conditions, almost no-one on the slopes.....I mean REALLY empty. Can't be more than 100 people there today, and it's a big resort! I had a great time anyway.

I agree with that marketing bloke. You guys are just talking about what you think should be great - you are not thinking from the point of view of the resort business - which I am sure none of you really know anything about (especially resort business in Japan). Yes, if the resorts are to market their resorts effectively maybe they should open up more? But there are surely REASONS why they don't. Yes, curry rice might be expensive at resorts and you ask "where the hell does my 5000 yen go?". Well can you see many resorts making much cash right now? (Even back in the bubble days).