booboo 0 Posted November 25, 2002 Share Posted November 25, 2002 Do you wax/tune? Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted November 25, 2002 Share Posted November 25, 2002 I went out first time this season without waxing or tuning. I can only really tell the difference with wax when the snows sucks (I mean literally, sucks at the bottom of your board, on flat slushy bits.) Otherwise it makes little difference. Considering I'm too lazy to do it myself, and it costs 3,000 yen up in a shop, I'd rather spend the money on a lift ticket. Link to post Share on other sites
zwelgen 0 Posted November 25, 2002 Share Posted November 25, 2002 I wax my skis every now and again, not to go any faster or whatever but just to look after my gear a bit so the base doesnt oxidise . As for sharpening them Im too scared to do it myself incase I screw the edges up but my local place will do it for about 1500 for me. Expensive but on icy days well worth it and dont need to do it much. As an aside Id love it if there was a bit of gear maintainence info on snowjapan, it took a while to work out what the hell to actually do on my skis! Link to post Share on other sites
Markie 0 Posted November 25, 2002 Share Posted November 25, 2002 I second that proposal, zwelgen. As I am relatively new to this sport, I am still working out how to ride my equipment. Then, one day, to my horror, I discovered rust on the edges of my skis! I was also told I only need to wax my skis when I put them away for storage. Anyway, I still don't have a clue as to what I should and shouldn't do to maintain my equipment. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted November 25, 2002 Share Posted November 25, 2002 Rust on skis is best treated by running a blowtorch flame very slowly around the edges. This kind of 'deep heating' dries out the metal. You only need to do it once or twice a year. Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted November 25, 2002 Share Posted November 25, 2002 But it doesn't work so well for boards. Get yer angle grinder to the board rust...works a treat! Link to post Share on other sites
Higuma 0 Posted November 25, 2002 Share Posted November 25, 2002 Here is a link TOKO Wax Wax and Mantanence Guide for Alpine Skis and Snowboards - PDF file Read and Educate yourself - Knoweldge is Power Edit: It's 29 pages and about 1.4 mb I think so give it some time if your on dial-up... just a warning Link to post Share on other sites
Markie 0 Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 You weren't kidding, Higuma, it took me a long time to download and print all that stuff....but really well worth it. Thanks a heap! I'm going to stay away from the blow-torch, Ocean. I am more likely than not to either wreck my skis or or burn my fingers....probably both. Link to post Share on other sites
Davo 1 Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 I wax up every 5-7 days out-can make a big difference. Link to post Share on other sites
enderzero 0 Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 I try to wax every 2-3 days I ride...sometimes more like 4-5 though. Just started this last year and I can notice a difference. Link to post Share on other sites
booboo 0 Posted November 27, 2002 Author Share Posted November 27, 2002 Thanx to all who replied and I hope more to come. Theres lots of info on web, but many pages are just advertizements for their tuning and waxing products and guides. A good site for tips is www.tognar.com Anybody else who would like to see snow temps posted on resort watch to help home waxers? Link to post Share on other sites
Higuma 0 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 I noticed for the first time this year the packaging for Holmenkol Wax that they are stating air temp ratings for wax choice on the package but they still sell three types of snow thermometers.... My personal opinion is that snow temps are not nearly as useful as snow humidity... most waxes are manufactured for dry, old, new, man-made, average, wet etc.., snow conditions... they just put the temp ratings on as a generization for us gits that can't figure that part out... If you look to the tech side of waxes they are not manufactured to temp specifics but to humidity (wetness) and granularity specifics (graininess / abrasiveness).... Anyways...... Link to post Share on other sites
Higuma 0 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 2nd thing... With todays silicone, hi floro, low floro (floronated waxes) etc. additives - temperature means less and less.. The "board sucks" comment by Ocean is a good reason to use expensive High floro wax or regular stuff with a silicone additive... Instantly your board will no longer suck..... Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 If only one had a butler for this sort of thing... Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 What are you talking about Ocean, I have the gardener do it, the butler's strictly silverware... Anyone know if the new 'non-wax' lubes are better than the old thing? They seem to be a lot easier to apply. Link to post Share on other sites
zwelgen 0 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Cheers for the weblinks fellas. But what I dont get is how are you supposed to know which wax to use. I just ask the people in the shop for their advice, but if you wax every 5 days out say (Im much lazier than that) surely the snow conditions are going to change a lot, say if you go out 2x a week thats nearly 3 weeks skiing and snow changes a lot over that time. And its hard to predict when youre going to get a dump. Ahh maybe Im just being too specific, I mean Im not a super-G or whatever In it for the buzz! Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Peters, my board is beginning to sack again... I see Sir. Would you like the fast wax again or the high-temp wax for mid-hill, sinter-damaged old snow conditions? Oh I don't know Peters, I leave it entaahly up to you. Very good Sir. Oh and Peters? Sir? Write some more of those silly 'Ocean11' posts on SJ for me would you? Consider it done Sir. Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 I bought a block of wax the other day. It is purple. Link to post Share on other sites
zwelgen 0 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 My wax is pink. It goes with my fluroscent snow suit, ultra tight leggings and furry around the edge of the hood. Damn I look hot on the slopes Link to post Share on other sites
LARD 0 Posted November 28, 2002 Share Posted November 28, 2002 Funny Ocean. (For you) Just use LARD. It's better than wax and good for cooking too once you've finished. Link to post Share on other sites
booboo 0 Posted November 28, 2002 Author Share Posted November 28, 2002 Ah the fun of it all! tahnx for comments. Personally we keep a ski tech on staff. We keep her locked in the "Harry Potter" room until its time to wax! Link to post Share on other sites
booboo 0 Posted November 28, 2002 Author Share Posted November 28, 2002 but seriously, waxing is great idea but i got no room to do it. makes quite a mess of the tatami.I find Toko waxing system is pretty easy to figure out:red or yellow or red/yellow! And don't worry too much, the wrong wax is better than no wax at all! Link to post Share on other sites
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