grungy-gonads 54 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Just reading the new book by Hooky about the Hacienda. I'll probably finish it by tonight, great story great read. If you ever went to the Hac or were interested in the scene, a must read! Quote: Peter Hook, as co-founder of Joy Division and New Order, has been shaping the course of popular music for thirty years. He provided the propulsive bass guitar melodies of 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' and the bestselling 12-inch single ever, 'Blue Monday' among many other songs. As co-owner of Manchester's Hacienda club, Hook propelled the rise of acid house in the late 1980s, then suffered through its violent fall in the 1990s as gangs, drugs, greed and a hostile police force destroyed everything he and his friends had created. This is his memory of that era and 'it's far sadder, funnier, scarier and stranger' than anyone has imagined. As young and naive musicians, the members of New Order were thrilled when their record label Factory opened a club. Yet as their career escalated, they toured the world and had top ten hits, their royalties were being ploughed into the Hacienda and they were only being paid GBP20 per week. Peter Hook looked back at that exciting and hilarious time to write HACIENDA. All the main characters appear - Tony Wilson, Barney, Shaun Ryder - and Hook tells it like it was - a rollercoaster of success, money, confusion and true faith. Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Interesting, pass it one when you finished gg Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 would like to read that myself. Never went to the Hacienda but love the music spin-offs. On a slightly related note, I've read a book called Altered State:The history of Ecstacy and House Culture, brilliant read as well. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Actually got that on order, amazon should be posting it out to me real soon. It's an interesting story, looking forward to reading more about it. Link to post Share on other sites
ShinyDiscoBall 2 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I have always felt Hooky was a complete tosser - on the evidence of simply reading lots of interviews - but I bet that is an interesting read. The other one you mention TB is indeed good too. Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Anyone on here go? Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Me! Me! Link to post Share on other sites
stemik 14 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 i think Mr Wiggles was a regular Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I've never been. The London clubs are bad enough. No need to go up north to get a glass smashed in your face. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 You obviously don't know about and/or understand what the Hacienda was thursday. It ended badly but for a while it was paradise in manc. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 ok. I did say I've never been. Therefore know nothing about it. So, tell me, was it a gay club then? Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 Er, no. Though there may well have been a gay night, I don't know. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 Excellent read. They reall **** that up big time. Brings back lots of memories. Or bits of 'em. Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 I've read a few bits of that.... didn't realise that there were so many gigs on at the Hacienda. Sounds like in the first few years it was more a gig venue than a nightclub. Link to post Share on other sites
ShinyDiscoBall 2 Posted October 18, 2009 Share Posted October 18, 2009 The Smiffs played the Hac 3 times. Quite a lot of 'classic' concerts went on there. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 I didn't know that either. Tons of gigs in the first few years. Anyway, a really good read. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 Oh yes thursday, there were gay nights. Sorry, it's closed now. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Originally Posted By: stemik i think Mr Wiggles was a regular Not quite, but I went maybe fifteen times in total. I saw George Clinton and Spacemen 3 play there, went to the Thurs indie night maybe seven or eight times, and the Friday house night only four or five times. The latter was easily the best. The indie nights weren't really different to anywhere else. A few less students and a bit less goth perhaps. If you went as more than four blokes, sometimes they wouldn't let you in. It would have been good to go to more of the house nights but more of my mates liked indie stuff and it was a fiver to get in on a Friday. I think it was a tenner on a Saturday. As context, in the same year, I saw the Throwing Muses and the Pixies (International 1) for five quid and Tad and Nirvana (Manc Poly) for maybe only four. Mudhoney and Sonic Youth at Daydream Nation time was five fifty. Five quid for just a club seemed like a lot of money. Especially when you've got club prices for booze once inside. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 According to Hooky lots of people weren't paying to get in esp. towards the end when it was Gangland and there was actually cheap booze going on in the club. They were into some bad deal with Whitworths where they were paying more than anyone else for the beer, but for some reason sold it cheap. I need to pay more attention to the details. Perhaps a few of Hookys anecdotes need to be taken with a bit of salt as well. I'm sure some of his memories are a bit misty Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 It might have been cheaper than the towny clubs like "Rotters" (what a name!) but I don't remember it being cheaper than the Boardwalk, the Ritz etc. To say nothing of the Poly! I saw Hookie once in Dry Bar. He was really deshevled and had some naff bikers boots-cum-wellies on. He looked like some bohemian back-to-the-lander. There was no aura. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 Hookie said that he was basically in Bar 7 nights a week. Never went there what was that like Wiggles? Never really liked him, he does come across as a real tosser and most definitely aura-less. Doesn't shy away from having a good dig at New Order for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 None of new order were really aura-tastic were they. Barney loves pies. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 FAC251, a new club, coming soon. Seems Mr Hook has decided that he does want to own a club once more. But it's not the Hacienda, oh no. They're not even mentioning the hacienda. More onr factorymanchester.com Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 He's actually teamed up with some club business types this time rather than the clowns himself included who ran the Hac. He's allowed to change his mind I suppose Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 Hookie is a right tart, but it looks like they actually have a plan this time. Opens this weekend will be interesting to see how that turns out. Link to post Share on other sites
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