SJ Gear Reviews 0 Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 A new snowboard review has been posted on the site by SerreChe. SNOWBOARD: Rad-Air: Tanker Oversize 187, 05/06 The review can be found here: http://www.snowjapan.com/e/gear-reviews/snowboard-review-003-rad-air.html Discuss it here... Link to post Share on other sites
SerreChe 2 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Ok, moved my back leg stance one notch further. Will see how it goes this season... Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Who you talking too? Link to post Share on other sites
SerreChe 2 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Hi SJs, I have been riding my Rad-air a fair bit with a new stance this season and was wondering if I could update my review as follows: 2007/01 update: In my original review I had stated that I had to put a bit of huumpf when turning backside and had lost an edge on occasions when I was riding it too agressively. I had also stated that I was going to play around with my stance to see how behaviour would improve. On my original set-up I had the narrower stance available (that's how I had been riding for year on my other smaller boards) and was decided to slowly move my back-leg one notch at a time and see how it would go. So I moved one notch further back for the hind leg and tested it out as a first step... and oh behold, that baby has been turning on a dime ever since both frontside & backside, and I have not lost an edge ever since on backside turns. I could not believe how a small stance adjustment made such a huge difference in terms of maneuverability! Big thumbs up for the board, and I guess that rectifies the few negative comments I had. After very recently trashing my beloved canyon 168 beyond recognition (long story) I had been thinking about getting a fat upper 170cm Elan board to ride more on groomer as well as have some good off-piste capabilities, but given how this board handles now on-piste not to mention in powder with its fat nose and 187cm, I think I will be using it as an all around board. I am sure it would make a great carver with a couple of plates on as well (for those who are into the stuff). Anyway, great board, I will keep my rating at 9 stars 'cos I do not believe in perfection The moral of the story is that I should have been all the wiser with regards to my stance when going from a 168 to a 187. Alhtough the stance move is pretty conventional when going to a big board, I had assumed (wrongly) that with enough experience I could still manage a powder board on groomer with the same old stance. Link to post Share on other sites
SerreChe 2 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Looks like I am playing the guitar! Link to post Share on other sites
fanonche 0 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hey there. My name is Fanon and I am new to SnowJapan. I live in Kyoto, but am originally from LA, Calf. I expect to be learning my way around Niseko this winter. I enjoyed your review and revised edition on the Rad-Air Tanker 187. I currently ride a Khyber 166 by Prior and although it is a specialized "powder board" I use it as my all around board. I have been wanting to get an "all mountain free riding rig" and think that I am going to get a Tanker 200. Is this thing really the dream everybody says that it is? Are you able to hit the trees with your new stance? I'm still trying to wrap my head around the length:) Also, what type of soft boot bindings are you using? Will very stiff bindings like Salomon spx 90s work well? Also, what are your stance coordinates now that you have adjusted back? We are about the same size so I might try your coordinates. Any advice is most appreciated. Thanks in advance for your feedback. Best, Fanon Link to post Share on other sites
fanonche 0 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 hey wanted to talk with yo about your rad-air Link to post Share on other sites
fanonche 0 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 tsondaboy: hey there. my name is Fanon. nice pic with you and your tanker. i am thinking about getting a tanker 187 wide or a 200 regular. i wear a size 12 (29.5) boot. will a 12 work with a 200? also, are you able to hit the trees with your board? what type of bindings are you using? thanks, fanon Link to post Share on other sites
tsondaboy 0 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 That’s actually SerreChe with his tanker. I took a pick of him with my cell phone last season up at Kagura. I also ride like you a Prior Khyber 160! By the way, welcome aboard. Link to post Share on other sites
SerreChe 2 Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Hi blackice, welcome to the forum. The board is really nice. I orignally use to ride my tanker for powder and my burton canyon for all around but after the stance adjustment I am now riding my tanker all around (smashing my canyon to pieces pushed me to make the leap). I use spx45s for bindings, without a problem I really like them, except for a tiny problem that applies to all bindings : really hard to un-strap when you're upside down (yes it happens). The inserts on my board are 8x8: http://www.exoticboards.com/i/Exotics/tn_more_snowboards_012.jpg I am now as far back as you can on the front foot, and middle on the back inserts (I used to have the narrowest stance possible). As for my angles, they have not changed since moving my back-foot, I am still on +15,0. I do ride some very tight trees (my googles do bear the marks of some tight encounters) with my 187 no probs, but I think it also depends how comfortable you are with the board and riding in trees overall which is hard to generalize to everybody. Japan is trees galore mostly with limited true alpine terrain, so being able to ride trees is important. A lot of my friends ride Khybers as well and are really happy with their boards. I think jumping from a 166 to a 200 may be a bit too much of a transition. I was asking myself the same question when I was riding a 167 and decided to go for a 187 which for me offered the perfect transition size-wise. The clincher for me was the waist width. If you go with a 200, you'll have to give up some width, not just with the tanker but with any super long boards. Thomas_m on this forum does ride a rad-air 200 but he does not have sasquatch feet like you & I do ;-). I'll post a few shots later on. Hope it helps. Link to post Share on other sites
SerreChe 2 Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 In terms of trees, this is the kind of tighness I usually ride: http://www.snowjapan.com/e/snow-japan-photo-galleries/SerreChe/SerreChe_226.jpg If I can, I try to avoid trees though. 187 is quite big already. A shot of the tanker on my backpack with Tsondaboy in the background for scale: http://www.snowjapan.com/e/snow-japan-photo-galleries/SerreChe/SerreChe_225.jpg Some shots of me (thanks to friends who are very good photographers)charging a bit of powder with my tanker last season can be found here: http://www.snowjapan.com/e/insider/member_photo_gallery.php?userGallery=145 One of the shots: Good luck in your choices. Hope you get to ride some great pow this season. Link to post Share on other sites
tsondaboy 0 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Originally Posted By: SerreChe 187 is quite big already. A shot of the tanker on my backpack with Tsondaboy in the background for scale: http://www.snowjapan.com/e/snow-japan-photo-galleries/SerreChe/SerreChe_225.jpg Come on, I am only 171 cm tall, if you take off the bindings I can easily sleep on it! Winter is around the corner, 3 months from now and we will be riding the first freshies. I will try to get more and better shots this year SerreChe. Link to post Share on other sites
SerreChe 2 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Sorry, could not help the "Tsonda for scale" tongue in cheek comment. Good news is I can easily use it as an emergency tow-in in case something happens to you. I can't believe it, that's true, only 3 months away. Wonder how this season is gonna pan out. Tsonda, if you have a bit of cash, you may want to upgrade on the camera. I am thinking about it as well. Link to post Share on other sites
tsondaboy 0 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Originally Posted By: SerreChe Tsonda, if you have a bit of cash I see you have an exquisite sense of humor SerreChe. But... I have quite a few points in my Bigcamera card so I might be able to get a deal. Link to post Share on other sites
SerreChe 2 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Go spend those points before they expire! I just realized on the above picture that I left my ventilation zipper on my inside right leg open. Was too eager to ride. Link to post Share on other sites
tsondaboy 0 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Good thing that nothing was hanging out. Link to post Share on other sites
mrjamie 0 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Yea, I'm currently trying to find an oversize 187 to buy... it's tough Link to post Share on other sites
tsondaboy 0 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Are looking for it at a shop in tokyo or online? Link to post Share on other sites
SerreChe 2 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Hi nuejam, I bought mine directly from the distributor in Tokyo. I will have to do a bit of digging to find the person's email address but he speaks a little bit of english as well. Let me know if you're interested and I'll pass you his dets via PM. Link to post Share on other sites
SerreChe 2 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Thank god for the meshing and the fact that I am not a horse Link to post Share on other sites
mrjamie 0 Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 thanks -- I've since found RJ, an American distributor, and Atsushi, the Japanese distributor's phonenumbers/contact information. Atsushi has a 177 05-06, not sure if it's oversized, and RJ is getting 07-08 187 oversizeds in 4 weeks... getting quotes on both, and as soon as it's clear whether or not I'll be working in Niseko next season, opening up the wallet Link to post Share on other sites
SerreChe 2 Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Good stuff. I bought mine from Atsushi, so did my friend who got one from the previous season. I also bought the carrier from him. All were very reasonably priced compared to the likes of Burton etc... Good luck then. Link to post Share on other sites
Kumapix 0 Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 don't want to be the one to rain on the parade but why get such a long board for Niseko? Link to post Share on other sites
mrjamie 0 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 from what folks have to say even a 187 seems fittable in the trees, and hopefully I?ll be spending most of my time off piste or at yotei/one of the nupuris. I haven?t decided yet so might end up with the 177 or 167?still waiting for prices on this years model. Niseko doesn?t have the steepest terrain, though it would seem that there are 40°slopes to be found ; but it has more than enough BC and powder for a long board, is what I currently think. Link to post Share on other sites
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