Definately an option from Nagoya. It will take between 4-5 hours by local trains if you time your connection at Matsumoto right, but you'll only save an hour or two on limited express, still have to make a change of trains at matsumoto, and cost 7500 more.
Originally Posted By: me jane What's the actual law? My parents always told me it was illegal because it's not actually yours to use until you have paid for it. As a criminal matter, I think it really depends on whether you intend to pay for it.