Tesselator
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Hehehe... I hope I'm not one-a-dem-dar Religious Secret holder holy men. I'd hate to ware that jacket for a cut & paste job!
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Originally Posted By: KingofmyrrhOriginally Posted By: timcraigTesselator I think you have your wires crossed. I am pretty sure Fat Twins has not been directing his responses at you for the most part. In this forum it is easy to put in a new post by clicking reply to the last post. I think this is what FT has done a few times and you have taken it as meaning that his remarks were purposefully directed at you.
For example the comments about going into surf threads and commenting were actually directed at Indo, but because you had posted after Indo had and this moved the forum on to a new page it was easier to simply click reply to your message than go back and reply to Indo's. So although the post title said it was a reply to you it really wasn't. Get it?? For the most part the title saying who someone is replying to is incorrect as everyone really just replies to the last post regardless. I think this has been a bit confusing for you and made you feel the remarks were directed at you.
Oh... beaten to the mark...
Ohhh... Now I see why I thought he was on drugs... Heh!
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Originally Posted By: Fattwins
A quote from Mamabear that is stupid!
Yes, you ARE on drugs. The info is in and the jury is out.
No one said anything about the word "idiot". Who are you having this conversation with?
I mean is says in the header that it's a reply to me (or I would just be watching and laughing
at you) but your comments if they are in reply to me, DO NOT make any sense - at all.
Now, don't get me wrong. I don't want to say you're bad or anything like that but I seriously
think you need help. Either that or your browser is busted. Or mine is...
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Originally Posted By: bellavistaOriginally Posted By: Fattwins
The majority of avalanches happen on slopes that average 25 to 35 degrees.
That statement is incorrect.
The vast majority of avalanches occur on slopes averaging 35-45 degrees.
How far do you have to tip your plate until the pancakes come a tumbling?
The average intermediate run at a resort is 30°, and an advanced 35°. Avalanches
generally occur on slopes between 32°-45°, but are certainly not limited to this
range. Lower angle slopes are safer since gravity’s effect will be diminished. Very
steep slopes, because they are so steep, are also less prone to slide since snow
tends to slough off naturally never having the chance to form a slab. (Steep terrain
still slides frequently, however, and is way more dangerous than low angle.) Also
to consider is that the lower the altitude the steeper the angle that avalanches
occur - meaning that this range varies (+/- 5° to 8°) from sea level to about
5000 meters.
- European skiing ranges from a few hundred metres above sea level in
Norway (e.g.180m (590ft) at Lillehammer) to over 3800m (12450 ft) at
Chamonix's Aiguille du Midi. In North American, some of the highest
skiing can be found at nearly 4000m (13000ft) at Colorado's Arapahoe.
Avalanches at 25° are possible but I would imagine them to be extremely rare!
All said and done Mama's statement was indeed not so "stupid!"
- European skiing ranges from a few hundred metres above sea level in
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Originally Posted By: Fattwins to TesselatorNumber one I dont go into surf threads and tell people one area is more dangerous than the other, do I Indo? I dont comment on riptides or etc. Ive hardly surfed and dont know crap about it. So by stating facts that arent true, am I helping or just saying crap? Id say crap!
What the hell are you talking about??? Are yo even reading the same thread that I am?
I'm not saying anything at all about YOU! The only time I even quoted you is when you
said it was out of bounds when indeed every news release on the Hakuba avy said it
was inbounds and I asked you if you were sure that it was out.
So just what the heck are you talking about???
Quote:Same goes with other sports I dont know about.
You want to talk about something then fine go ahead ,but before you make judgements about safty, anywhere you should actually know something about what makes something safe.
Agree. And I do. I gave you my credentials. I have worked a number of years in that
specific field. I do know what I'm talking about. In your analogy (above) I would be both
a surfer and a ranking officer in the Life Guards.
Quote:Call me what you want! Im big enough to take it, cause at least I have some understanding about the topic in question.
Are you on drugs? Or do you often hear and read other people calling you names
where no such thing ever occurred??? Seriously man, ARE you even reading the same
thread? Put down that crack pipe and join THIS discussion - not the one in your head
that doesn't exist anywhere else.
Quote:Everyone that seems to have a problem really knows jack all about what it takes to deem things safe or not!
A quote from Mamabear that is stupid!
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This would be the time I was very thankful that Niseko gradient was not too steep, huh? At least you get to go home!
The majority of avalanches happen on slopes that average 25 to 35 degrees.
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Originally Posted By: Kumapixyou guys are mixing up the avalanches. The Tsugaike avy is discussed here:
http://www.snowjapanforums.com/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/257263/gonew/1#UNREAD
this thread was about the avy mentioned in Hakuba Now! last week
Oh, that's embarrassing!
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Isn't that reserved for when you get married?
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Originally Posted By: Go Native...an arrogant ass.
Some one call me?
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Huh? What'd ya say Thursday?
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Huh? What are you talking about? Who is Fatts... And who cares if he comments or not?
huh? did I miss something here, again?
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Originally Posted By: FattwinsThis did not happen inbounds it happened in the Back Country.
You sure? The article I read called it a "course". Specifically: 林間 コース Which I took to
mean wooded course. This would be different than "off-course" right?
There are usually posts (often a small shack or other) near the mouth of any course
(or trouble area) that may be problematic during the season. Especially if it might
be subject avalanche conditions but also at popular points where kids hop out of the
park. Not stationing a minimum wager at these points with snow condition info and
instructions to keep n00bs out I still maintain is VERY negligent.
@Thursday
As to knowing enough to comment on the topic I guess since that was my job for a
number of years, I qualify.
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Originally Posted By: Big DoggFor anyone interested in the Tsugaike report that SLOW posted:
Police are still investigating the incident, so there is no official report. From Tsugaike Resort: patrol always confirms that each course is safe before opening the lifts every day. (There is no mention of closed courses or dealing with areas around courses within the resort that might affect the courses set to be open.) Courses deemed to be in danger of avalanches will be closed off by a "????"(Do not enter) sign, not an avalanche warning sign (though I still maintain that some resorts unnecessarily use the latter). They go on to say that they will take preventitive measures so that this will not happen again. And that they maintain a "protect yourself" attitude, perhaps meaning that you are responsible for your own actions rather than being policed by patrol.
Yes, according to the kanji post by Slow there was no "Avalanche Warning" sign posted.
Only a "Keep Out" sign and the entrance was netted off.
It was a group of 9 people. 7 Students and 2 part-time teachers. 7 people passed
beyond the "keep out" sign including the two teachers and were caught in the slide.
Two people didn't make it. I haven't read any detailed interviews but I guess they
just spaced it off instead of deliberately disobeying the signage. I mean two were
teachers right? They probably wouldn't say "Ah screw it, let's fly... Weeee...." if
they were with and responsible for 5 students.
Something I find rather incredible about this though. I've worked at more than a
few ski resorts in snow management and etc. and avalanche conditions are usually
very very obvious. If you're going to open a resort with an unsafe run you always
ALWAYS want to post one or two individuals near the entrance to the dangerous
area! Just posting a sign and putting up a net is entirely irresponsible IMO. I've
never seen that happen before!
Many people just don't look or think the netting is for other purposes - and then
there are kids and stuff.
If this were the USA this would be a huge negligence suit! It may yet be here too.
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Yeah, I read her post. And I feel sorry for her. And If I were
around when that happened I PROMISE that guy would have a ski or
board permanently embedded in his -- Well he'd have a brand new
body-part to deal with - let's put it that way.
But am I going to start wearing helmets because of it? Nope!
I calculate that I've spent about 800 long days (actually) on the
slopes so far in my lifetime with more coming. The number of times
I was hit by another skier or snowboarder: Once when I was 6 years
old. The number of times I've run into anyone else (going more
than 5mph): zero. The number of people I (we) kicked out of the
park for speeding (working as patrol): about 5 per year. Do I
know the risks? Yup, you bet.
But there's more to it than that. I'm never going to ski a crowded
hill or an over crowded park! I stay on the advanced runs only and
even then only when I see that people are using their heads and not
being inconsiderate. If there's any BS like that I wait at the top
till they leave.
I think it's MUCH MUCH better to teach skiers this kind of social
comportment rather than strapping on a skid-lid and saying GO FOR IT.
It's why you see people standing at the top of intermediate and
advanced runs waiting to go at the safest and most opportune time.
If you ski or board like you're supposed to you don't need a helmet
unless like I said, you're terrain skiing or tricking.
Anyway, that's just me. I'm not suggesting others do what I do. If
they want to wear a helmet that's kewl. But if too many people start
doing that instead of skiing safe in the first place pretty soon it's
going to become mandatory and that'll ruin it for a lot of people IMO.
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PS: Mamachalis don't come with baby seats. Those are extra and not
what I was talking about.
PS: PS: Yeah, if you were Mountain, Trials, or MXing off road without
a helmet (and a cup!) that was really dumb.
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I'd want one in a pipe or for woods... I wouldn't ware one on any runs I've ever been on tho - unless there were like, rocks or something...
Heh! That would be embarrassing - and pointless.
Kinda like wearing a helmet on a mamachali. :-/
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Good job on the site guys!
PS: I'm so glad I didn't go there that day.
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Wow! I just looked at the pole results and I can't believe over 1/2 of us walked up that gravel mound.
Were we all silly or were some of us lied to?
Fuji (for me) was the silliest experience I've had in Japan - Yup! even more silly than seeing used underwear in a vending machine. I was happy and everything but I'm the kinda guy that would be happy trying to drink cola through my nose on a rollercoaster too.
Fuji walking (I won't even call it climbing!) might be good for your health or interesting to see that your cell phone works from the summit but the whole hill is nothing but a massive pile of volcanic gravel and about as interesting as watching flies procreate on a hot summer's day.
There's ALWAYS too many people for it to be peaceful or to get any connection with nature. It's just walking up a non-descript hill laced with places selling you $15 500ml bottels of water, maybe getting your walking-stick stamped and then walking back down.
The base (1st 20min. of walking) is pretty cool tho. The other 4 to 8 hours (depending on the trail you take) however could be better spent doing almost anything. Heck, I bet there's some really cool biking roads all along Fuji's base. I'd recommend a base bike trek over a Fuji walk up any day.
All that said, Fuji might be kewl to "climb" in January/February.
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Nice. It's a damn shame there's no Mac UB version!
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Hey that sounds like a neat gadget!
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Futon!
Beds take away the multipurpose aspect of a room and only VERY expensive ones are comfortable (to me).
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He Who Has A $3,000 Bed Somewhere In The USA.
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OK, WantToSki,
But you have 11 messages in this thread kind of whining about something that at least seems very trivial to me. At an estimated avr. of 10min. per message (read/write) that's like 2 hours. I can study a lot of technique in 2 hours.
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Film parody. (Use Mad Magazine) Teach how and why.Quote:What would you like to teach if you could teach anything? How would you approach it? What has worked/hasnt worked for you.
Small engine repair. (teaches technical instruction learning and is fun!) Get a buttload of 3 to 5 HP gas engines, rebuild them by the manual and if there's still time build go-carts. (I did this in Utah at a boys ranch one summer. It worked out nicely there.)
Teach how to set up an internet radio station. Make them take turns DJing - require 20% (or something) of time to be "talk".
Photo Journalism - Digital pics and write about it.
Theater - They write plays in a group and then different groups have to preform the plays. (Teach the standard 2 and 3 act formats.)
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Drugs and thinner are NOT allowed in the Bosozoku! Bosozoku will kick your ass if you're a member and you do that shit.
But Bosozoku is a form of rebellion where thinner and drugs are not - in Japan. Thinner and drugs are a cry for help for some intense reason or another.
Fashion is used heavily here as a mild form of rebellion. Really more unconventionality... This includes hair, piercing, and cloths.
Tobacco (I guess that's a drug so, an exception to above - or a mix of the two)
Breaking shit that doesn't belong to them seems to be the most common "severe" one I see. So, Vandalism.
Yup, not coming home at night is a big one too!
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I don't agree with that at all. If for example you want reconciliation of some kind (money or services) and IF they didn't want to give it to you - making a scene - is the fastest way to get your way (in Japan). It's also gaudy and rude.Quote:Originally posted by WantToSki:
Daver is right... Based on experience here in Japan, the more you make a fuss about stuff, the less you'd achieve...
That said why is it that I am always the odd man out with these opinions? I would have just told the boss that same day (maybe - prolly not) and chalked the rest up to a learning experience. If I forgot to tell the boss that day I would just simply forget about it. You'll do more damage to yourself by fretting it than you could ever hope to recover.
Also I think if you spend 1/2 as much energy trying to remember what he did and learn from what he had you do as you are spending on this thread posting - the lesson will have been worth every penny. -
BTW, I usually weight my experience on 2, 3, 4, 5, and 14 but I think everyone is different.
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There's so very many things to consider! What were you wondering about specifically? There's:
- Resort maintenance / attraction maintenance.
- Run maintenance.
- Show conditions.
- Run Length.
- Run diversity.
- Season length (sweet months).
- Local whether - for example June kinda sucked cuz they have this constant fog condition from the Lake.
- General resort policies and enforcement.
- Facilities and Facility location (accessibility).
- Transportation services (shuttles and etc.).
- Safety & Rescue (staff ability and quality of facility - if any).
- Property Security (is your car or board likely to get ripped?).
- Employee spirit (Kewl and friendly or control freaks that need a thumping?).
- Price and availability (goods and services).
- Then there's like, ummm, "Resort Presence" - the ability to communicate or make known, all of the above to customers.
What did I leave out?
Hakuba Now: Avalanche accident! - I have questions!
in Snow talk, trip reports, Japan avalanche & backcountry
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PS: Why does my post say: "Re: Soft Landings" ?? Huh? Huh? Tellllll-me!