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  1. Hi Guys,

     

    Sorry for another "how do I get to......."

     

    I am concerned with timings for our trip. We arrive in Tokyo at 5.15pm on Friday 23 December and are travelling to Hakuba.

     

    Initially we were going to use Chuo Taxi at 11,000 yen per person per way. However they now say we may end up waiting for them at the airport for up to 2 hours and then have a 7 hour journey to Hakuba. That means getting in anywhere around 3am shifty.gif

     

    However I went to look at trains and then the bus from Nagano etc and can't find a decent connection as it appears the last Nagano bus leaves 8.30pm and this appears tricky after landing at 5.15pm if no delays. Say an hour through customs and we are struggling to make the connection.

     

    We only have 8 days so don't really want to overnight in Tokyo. Any other options you can suggest ?

     

    Cheers \:\)

     

    holo

  2.  Quote:
    Originally posted by Indosnm:
     Quote:
    Originally posted by Creek Boy:
    [QB] Theres no way Im gonna pay XXXXXXXXXX yen for a stupid ceremony either. Id rather have that money and use it for something worthwhile. A nicer ring for my wife maybe, a longer/nicer honeymoon, whatever.
    C) 13 months honeymoon surfing the world using the same money we would have spent in a day...

    She picked C! Then I knew I had the right chick for me!
    wow, what a fantastic experience thumbsup.gif
  3.  Quote:
    Originally posted by nagpants:
    I agree about the link ups but

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    passionate sliders
    But they don't make up the mass market, do they?
    I can only speak from my experience. But that is that the skiers I know, at all levels of experience and ability, are used to travelling a long way. Even when living in England we would take a longer trip to the US even though mainland Europe was a short flight away. (Also I am only a strong intermediate skier so it wasn't like I was looking for extreme terrain).

    I know plenty of fair weather skiers who also would happily travel 12 - 15 hours for a ski trip even if it is only an irregular experience.

    Obviously you need the percieved ease of accesibility, however that may only need be regular train times, limited stops and easy connections. Sometimes perception is more important than reality in my opinon. In which case it then comes down to marketing. For this you need a consistent approach from the commercial concerns in an area. The equivalent of a chamber of commerce can help.

    You have to present the perception of easy accesibility. Once I am at a resort, if I enjoy it enough I don't care how I got there. So, again I am back to wanting an all mountain pass and an easy way of getting round the valley.

    As an aside I approached the english speaking website for Hakuba tourism and asked a couple of questions, I didn't get a reply to either the initial or follow up request. I realise there may be many reasons for that but it doesn't give a good impression.

    Anyway, just my thoughts on ski tourism generally.
  4. a very interesting thread.

     

    When thinking about the common facilities the linked ski areas I have been to all had, they include a common ski pass as mentioned earlier but also a very good bus service easily linking all areas.

     

    Until transportation and a common ski pass is introduced then growth will be inhibited IMHO.

     

    I don't think accessability is a real problem, passionate sliders, whether skiers or boarders generally expect to have to travel.

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