Mantas
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Thank god youv'e come along South African.
Now the Aussie bashing can have a break for a little while.
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Mate, I'm Australian mate.
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i said it 'sounds' like the ramblings of a starry eyed city dweller.
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Mmmm sounds like Stevo offended his 'taste' as well. He did get one point right though about the money. Stevo sure got plenty oof that, and used it to BETTER wildlife not to it's detriment as he suggested.
Can't really understand why people like him keep saying he 'exploited' animals..Geez man. The last fried chicken you ate suffered more in one day than anything Stevo dished out to any animal.
Sound like the ramblings of a starry eyed city dweller to me.
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one flight per day Pascal
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why is that? we do the same down here. must come down to cold hard economics in the end.Quote:In BC, Canada. we grow some pretty good apples. But at the big-name supermarkets, a lot of apples are from New Zealand! Its crazy that we import them when we grow them in our backyard!
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Fattwins, sounds like youv'e spent a lot of time around Hakuba. Never been there myself but I'm going in Feb.
Do you think the potential for growth from the international market is big?
Certainly from down here it seems it could easily go the way of Niseko.
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Me Jane good luck with it all.
My wife had one baby each way. My advice, go natural if you can.Quote:1.As women are not generally given enemas before the birth the delivery table can get a bit messy with all the pushing! At least if I have a c-section I'll be avoiding that one!They have plenty of cleaning product and equipment on hand!
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More Aussies, burping and farting around the place!
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ocean, to be totaly honest, I didn't really know what the hell you were saying, I only understood half of it !
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I did my fair share of work along the way. And don't forget those places aren't exactly expensive.
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Fair comment spud.
When you find your community, whatever that maybe, you'll find that you will also defend it zelously whenever it is under attack too.
tell me .. just where did you get your PHD in shit stirring ?
peace be with you.
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rice and noodles my friend
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Le-spud you are right. I do get into a lot of conflict in this
forum. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that every time I look at it there is a lot of Aussie bashing going on. Your automatic assumption that I base all my views from my limited knowledge of all things worldly is a classic example.
Let me tell you a little about myself.
Since the age of 18 I have travelled the world on and off for the best part of 12 years. I've spent time in 54 countries; I’ve trekked in the Andes, Himalayas, and climbed mountains in Africa. I've Sailed the Nile in a felucca, travelled with military escorts through war torn countries, been hospitalised in Indonesia and Costa Rica through illness and injury, I’ve ridden in the back of trucks with bare breasted Indian women in the Amazon, I've been mugged in Mexico, death threats, beaten in other places, I’ve travelled right around Australia, sometimes living off hunted pig, wallaby, goat, fish ect. I’ve surfed in places so remote that the local women dragged their screaming kids into the jungle in fear. I’ve been within spitting distance of wild elephants on foot in Botswana. I’ve lived and worked in both the UK and Eastern Canada,
I've also visited the Louve, the Vatican, the church of the holy sceptre in Jerusalem, Mount Sinai, the Taj Mahal, Varanasi, Borobodur ( large Buddhist monument in the world) , Gallipolis ( yer cringe cringe ) The great mosque in Medan Sumatra, the Smithsonian institute in Washington DC, the White House, Cape Canaveral, Buckingham palace, Edinborough castle and many other important cultural and historical sites. Oh yes and Disneyland.
Why am I telling you all this ?
2 Reasons.
1- To show you that I draw my opinions from a slighly broader expierience than a few holidays to Niseko and Kuta or some bar talk down at the local RSL as you so wrongly assumed my friend.
2- To tell you that all that stuff I did amounts to about F*** all these days. Yer I used to think I was a big man of the world. Let me tell you . Flitting around the world with minimal possesions is a picnic compared to what I do now.
Raising kids, spending half the night at hospital with a sick kid, paying a mortgage, cleaning up spew at 2 am then again at 4am then going to work at 6am, being part of a community , spending the only day off in weeks helping out at the local netball club, ….these are the real life experiences.
These days the people I aspire to are the mums and dads with 4 kids and a mortgage, they live their whole life for others. Most of them have never been on a plane or seen snow. I don’t judge them or rank their social order by thier level of worldly wisdom or appreciation of the fine arts. These are good people doing good things. They are an integeral part of any society and without them the whole thing would turn to shit !
I think you are right Spuddy boy . I need to find another forum. One without so much snobbery, bias and insult.
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ahhh yes that's much better Ocean. Wow..... quite the wordsmith aren't we ?
" critical faculties automatically suspended ".
I'll have go look that up in my Knuckle draggers handbook and then I'll get back to you.
Words of wisdom once again BP . I like the way you think. People are going to have their opinions no matter what a handful of cyber nerds like us in this forum think.
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fair comment BP. the guy was far from perfect. I'm gerally trying to show the greater good here.
Come on Ocean ( with no 's' ) is that the best you can do ?
Surely you have more in your Smart Arse file to serve up !
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Attenborough vs Stevo
Attenborough- a highly intelligent man with an immpecably long career in wildife doumentary presentation. Well educated and commited to conservation. His documentarys were very informative and well presented but predominately aimed at viewers with a particular interest in the subject of his presentation.
I can't comment accurately on the man himself, only to guess he also devoted a large amount of his own time and money to worthy environmental causes. But nothing to the scale of Stevo's.
Stevo- A man of questionable intelligence and a basic education ( in the formal sense ) He would've been the first person to admit this. He had a boots and all, in your face type of presentation that appealled to the masses ( or 'nuckle dragging neaderthals' as some of the elitest snobs of this forum like to call them ).He was reaching kids as young as 2 with his Wiggles videos, convieing important messages about conservation and animals He repeatedly told the kids " don't do this at home " and" look but don't touch".
Through his crazy antics and hyperactive presentations, the previously uninterested masses soon started to tune in to watch this crazy bastard, particularly in the US. The finacial windfall was soon to follow. Irwin inc. became a multi million dollar operation.
So what did Stevo and his family decide to do with all this new found wealth ? Did he prance around displaying all the trappings of success like so many other useless pricks in this world. No he pumped all this money back into some very important wildlife protection programs. He bought big tracts of land throughout the world solely for the porpose of conservation.
Here is the key difference... While Attenborough prattled on about the problems the worlds eco systems were facing to his selected audience. Stevo was out there proactively doing things to change these problems.
http://www.wildlifewarriors.org.au/
Check out his Web site and see what he has achieved and when you have finished reading his list of acomplishments, it may take a few days, then get back to me and justify your villification of this man. How some of you can come out and call this guy the names you have and say such derogatory this about him ( based on your 2 or 3 TV appearences that you watched) before his body is even buried is beyond me. I would of though you had a higher level of social skill and intelligents than this.
Sure ! You don't have to like him. I was extremely embaressed at times when I watch him too. But this is no justification to denograte the mans memory.
( Please excuse my appalling spelling and typing, I didn't didn't fully complete my education at Knuckle Draggers High ! )
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Your certainly entitalled to your opinion Ocean.
But Please don't confuse "your taste' with what cannot be denide.
Steve irwin was a great man that did far greater things of good to this world than you and I . Credit where credits due.
Beatifying is what we do to all people who pass on. famous or not. It's nothing new.
Germaine greer is an old cow who has only ever lived for herself and wouldn't have a clue about real life ,how could anyone place value in her comments.
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Back up your statment with an example Ocean (with no 's')
Don't you think that these animals might just have a slightly tougher time in the wild during the the course of there normal day than what Steve did to them ?
Would you take back all the millions of dollars and countless hours of devotion to projects he funded , just so a few animals weren't slighty inconvenienced for a few minutes.
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Oceans, How exactlly did he chuck these animals. Did he swing the snakes around and around his head and then release it like a hammer thrower ? What about the Goannas ,did he throw them much like you would throw a paper airoplane, just to see how far he could get it ?Quote:By picking up and chucking animals around unnecessarily, you could say he lacked honesty, compassion, and respect
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from Le Spud
One of those guys lives at the end of my street.Quote:On the flip side, up around where Mantas lives, the local men catch baby great whites using fishing rods from the beach whilst sitting in a seat attached to the bumper bar of their 4wd (thats an SUV). Using a surfboard they paddle the baited hook 100m off the shore and then paddle back in, get in the seat and wait for a bite. (incidentally, those guys make Irwin look like a intellectual pussy)All done for scientific research.
Very noble chaps !
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originally posted by Le Spud.
Mate you really do have a dim view of Australians don't you?Quote:As for 'being a man'... well that yard stick of worth is what is strongly wrong with Australia and generally wrong with the world at large. He is a by far more popular kind of 'Aussie man' than I, which is one of the reasons I don't live there any more: i don't fit in and never did, what I want in life is very rare in Australia, so look elsewhere. That's no ones fault. If spinning around in a ute and wresting crocodiles and being a general rough nut is what it takes to be a man then hey, I don't want to be one.The things that I believe make a man is. (not nessesarily in order)
Honesty, loyalty, compassion, passion, respect, commitment to family, generousity, stength ( inner and outer ) and the ability to love others.
These are the traits that Steve Erwin was loved for. Not cause he could wrestle a croc into the back of a ute for god's sake !
So tell me Le Spud which one of these trait do you think Steve didn't posess ?
One one the things not mentioned in this thread is the amount of time and money Steve donated to preserving massive areas of wilderness around the globe. He has pumped millions of his own money into projects in Asia and the south pacific. Steve was a rearity in the celebrity world.
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Bushpig, NSW Mid North coast.
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Not sure who's chips bigger Spud. Mine or Yours?