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Originally Posted By: thursdaydouble pay? nice gig. You sat around for 6 months knocking off early to go swimming and gyming. Life is good.
Yes. It all came to an end 3 weeks earlier than it should have when they finally realised I had done literally nothing for the previous 5 months. We reached a gentlemen's agreement that we would bring my end date forward
Oh well, it was bound to finish one day. It turned out to be a good thing because it meant I was well ensconsed in my new job by the time Lehmans went under the world took a turn for the worse. Had I kept my original timeframe I might be working as a lifty in niseko right now...... 
In hindsight I wonder.....
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My company almost went broke and was then bought by another company that sort of offered us jobs that they knew we wouldn't take and so we all left - does that count? it wasn't so bad, particularly being asked to hang around for 6 mths on double pay, just in case we were needed and then to still have the payout cashola in US dollars when the Aussie went belly up so when the cash was finally sent home it was 30% more than anticipated....all in all, this is a pretty good recession! I feel a bit like Robert Duvall's Col Kilgore character from Apocalypse Now - Some day this “recession†is going to end......
Depends on your situation, it could be a liberating experience that gives you an opportunity to take stock of what is important and maybe even have a go at doing something that you've wanted to do but couldn't quite bring yourself to. It is so very hard to give up a secure job, even one that you hate, and take a chance.
On the other hand it could be the end of the world if you have a mortgage and school payments and debt and a family to support when the job market is shrinking rapaidly. Maybe even then it might be worth having a go at something completely different. After all, what have you got to lose?
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no, I'm outside the blackout period. the fare is 26000 for 2 sectors.
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Originally Posted By: kebaFor the information of others, with JAL, it's called the "OneWorld Yokoso Japan Fare", 10000Y/sector, if you have international flight with a OneWorld Airline. If not, there is the "Welcome to Japan Fare" for 13000Y/sector, with no restriction on international airline. There is information on their web page, but you need to book with JAL at an office or by phone, as you said, and only outside of Japan.
There might be different fares the yokoso fare I got - blackout period start from 6 March - is 26000 for two sectors. -
yep. ANA might do the same, simple search for Air Pass JAL etc. You have to go through their office or book by phone because you need the details of the in bound international flight but it is all pretty easy. I don't know if it can be done on the internet.
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Originally Posted By: MikePowNAB yes.
CBA no. They were in town today.
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Maybe this has already been mentioned but there is a thing called an Air Pass - sort of like the JR rail pass. If you're flying in from outside of Japan there are deals for 10,000 yen each way from TY to Sapporo or 26,000 return - depending one which type of airline you're using.
I think someone mentioned how expensive the TY to Sapporo leg of their flight is - this might save a few bucks.
I hear that the CBA and NAB have gone cold on the idea of lending to investors in Niseko - talk about fair weather friends!
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The problem is, you're using the wrong term. Every right thinking person knows that the meaty stuff shown in your photo, when cut off and wrapped up with some salad and garlic sause and other stuff is called a sovalaki.
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Originally Posted By: MikePowOriginally Posted By: macmehAaah... amatuer mistake to fly through New Chitose!
If you ask really nicely, your travel agent should find the one flight from Brisbane per day that goes direct to Narita (not New Chitose), that flight then allows you to make the domestic connection from Narita to Sapporo!
For reference, check out QF369 (Operated by Jalways) and then JL3047.
Only 1 problem with this flight though... because it's a Qantas flight operated by Jalways, you can't use your Qantas Freqent Flyer points to upgrade to business class and get a bed on the overnight flight getting home
I ask- whats the point of spending half of the year racking up points on crappy overnight business trips if you can't spend them on a comfortable business class upgrade!!
I went to the Jalways site and it says that the connection is Narita to Sapporo Chitose.
Isn't that New Chitose (CTS)?
macmeh, mate, get yourself a map of japan! you're confusing people!!
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Hang-on, that isn't same day, that is a crappy 28 hours drag with a shitty night spent on a plane. In 28 hours you could be anywhere on the planet.
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Originally Posted By: macmehGoNative makes a good point!
We ski Japan because it's only 1 day of travel to get there, no overnighting... North America is just too far!
QANTAS and JAL do a codeshare flight out of Brisbane that gets in to Narita in time to make the 1 connecting flight per day up to Sapporo and onwards. It means we can walk out of the house first thing in the morning, and be in Niseko having a beer before midnight... can't complain about that!
That's pretty slick, how tight a schedule is it?
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Originally Posted By: Go NativeAussies still get to land in Japan on the same day with little if any jet-lag unlike travel to Nth America. This is a big plus.
GN, with the demise of the direct Qantas flights I think those coming from Aust will probably need to get an overnight flight and then still faff around with transfers at Narita (although Osaka might be easier). Even if they go to Nagano or Niigata it is still a good 4+hrs after landing at Narita. In most cases it will be an over night trip, no jet lag, but still close to 24 hrs on the road between leaving home and checking in. Zero chance of leaving Aust and arriving in Niseko on the same day I would reckon. -
yeah but you get the cultural experience in Niseko!!
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This might come as a surprise to some but there have been recessions before and the world didn't end. So far as Japan is concerned, there are hundreds of resorts in the country, they still exist some 20 years after the Japanese bubble burst. Only a handfull ever benefited from the international market. Nothing much will change with the Aussies gone. Niseko land prices will drop back, but they will still be higher than prices down the road and everything will return to business as normal. The real pity will be that the services developed at Niseko to cater for international visitors will erode as people and business drift away and we're left with the base line Japanese model.
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Originally Posted By: Tubby Beaverget him pissed...not like any of us didn't drink when we were 17...just make sure he doesn't spew on a radiator in the room like what happened to my 16 yr old cousin in Meribel.....hot spew smell is not nice!!!
Do you think the French view the Scots in the same way that the Japanese view the Aussies?
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Cb, you could say it pretty well has the same thing that Haks has these days.
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Yeah, Big-Will I think there is, but one day; one day they will come and then people will be sorry they used to bag the Aussies!!!
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Ski,
Different places are obviousy affected to different degrees - my numbers come from oneof the main property managers in Niseko. The rates apply to all their apartments, which number in the hundreds. A fair sample I'd say.
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Originally Posted By: kebaOriginally Posted By: Rag-Dolllet me calrify this a litte - places like nozawa, which was a spa town before it was a ski town have a little something extra, as does hakuba and probably a others but they're the exception.
And guess what, RD, when we were last in Hakuba, that's exactly what we did. We took a day to go back to Nozawa Onsen to show off our little boy to our old hosts from a couple of years back, and soak up some of the village atmosphere. No skiing. Get that? We went to Nozawa Onsen and didn't ski. We also visited the snow monkeys another day and drove to Nagano, visited the shrine there, did some shopping for art prints and ate some Manju cake. We were in Hakuba for 13 days, and skied for 7 of those. It isn't everything, you know.
Don't try and tell me you can't mix a ski trip with enjoying the other things Japan, or any destination, has to offer. You holiday how you like, and I'll continue to do it my way.
I'm not saying your can't mix the two, I'm saying don't complain that you can't do two at the same time at Japanese ski resort - jeez, read the post. I think you just have a problem with the idea of your quaint view of rustic Japan being modernised. Here is the thing - good old quaint Nozawa, how much money do you reckon the resort is making? How much do you reckon they desparately need more visitors? where are they going to come from? What are they going to want, why is Niseko so very popular with foreign visitors? Yes, some of it is marketing and some of it is the mountain and snow but the additional services that have been added over the past 4-5 years have been done in response to visitor needs - child care, decent accom, decent lifts sevices, decent places to eat because there is only so much chicken skin yakitori a person can eat. So Keba, I reckon you're more of a type 2 kind of guy. You'd much rather watch rurual Japanese struggle to make ends meet than see them develop their business and, god forbid, attract international visitors.
The next big thing will be Chinese, mainland Chinese. If anybody reckons the Aussies were bad, you ain't seen nothing yet! -
Originally Posted By: ooI know people who come to ski and take in Kyoto or other places as part of their trip. This cultural thing isnt limited to the concept of the ski resorts themselves somehow being the main part of that cultural experience. Others just enjoy coming to Japan and finding their way around, exploring, mixing with locals, checking out the shopping.... whatevers your bag.
That's my point exactly, so why do we have people who moan about a resort being westernised or being over run by Aussies?
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Originally Posted By: Rag-DollI know I'm given to gross generalisations, it is my one vice but I reckon there is a bt of substance to this. Exactly what sort of culture are people hoping to see? there isn't a Japanese alpine tradition, snow sports are a relatively (well less than 100 yrs)new thing for Japanese mountains. So what people see when they visit a Japanese ski resort is often a poor imitation of european ski culture (at best) or some gaudy-hello kitty- type thing. There were also numerous ski fields that were developed during the Japanese bubble that simply have nothing to recommend them and aren't financially viable, hence 80's style is theme of the day. What exactly do people expect to see when they look for Japanese culture at a ski resort. Japanese rurual towns are a study in appalling town planning with drab grey block buldings under a rat's nest of telephone, power, cable TV wires. It is a good thing the Japanese snow is as good as it is, coz there is bugger all else to do in the inaka in the winter time.
let me calrify this a litte - places like nozawa, which was a spa town before it was a ski town have a little something extra, as does hakuba and probably a others but they're the exception. -
Back on topic...
A person in the know in Niseko tells me that bookings are slow and that there have been a very large number of cancellations despite discounts being offered to those bookings already deposited. Feb rates are now running at a 40%+ discount over last year's prices.
The people really hurting will be the property managers and the tour operators. They will be geared up for client levels that simply won't be present. Not sure about developers though, the holding costs won't be that high - yen rate still really low and probably a lot of this year's developments would have been close to being finished by the time the crunch came so they would have been able to offload them. Still, there would be a lot of capital tied up in land banks that now look very unlikely to be sold at anything near what they were worth 6 mths ago. I wish I was still earning yen, there will be some bargins coming up I reckon.
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I know I'm given to gross generalisations, it is my one vice
but I reckon there is a bt of substance to this. Exactly what sort of culture are people hoping to see? there isn't a Japanese alpine tradition, snow sports are a relatively (well less than 100 yrs)new thing for Japanese mountains. So what people see when they visit a Japanese ski resort is often a poor imitation of european ski culture (at best) or some gaudy-hello kitty- type thing. There were also numerous ski fields that were developed during the Japanese bubble that simply have nothing to recommend them and aren't financially viable, hence 80's style is theme of the day. What exactly do people expect to see when they look for Japanese culture at a ski resort. Japanese rurual towns are a study in appalling town planning with drab grey block buldings under a rat's nest of telephone, power, cable TV wires. It is a good thing the Japanese snow is as good as it is, coz there is bugger all else to do in the inaka in the winter time. -
um.. Nara and Kyoto are two that sping to mind. 10min on wiki searching Japanese history will tell when and why grid systems are not new to Japan. That said, any logic to Sapporo's city planning doesn't share the same history as those places.
It really cracks me up, this whole "cultural ski trip" thing. What a load of nonsense. If you want to get a feel for Japanese culture take an extra week and spend some time in Kyoto or in Takayama or some of the other more out of the way places that still retain a lot of pre-Meiji history. Go there, see it and enjoy yourself and then head to the snow and be glad that at some resorts you can actually get a decent meal and stay in a decent hotel that doesn't close down at 9pm. Alternatively, spend some time in Tokyo after your trip, check out Ginza and Omote Sando and Harajuku and Shibuya and places like that to see 21st cent Japan and then visit Hiroshima, Nikko and the Yasukuni shrine and the Japanese war museum - this will give your a sense of how the Japanese see themselves and where they come from. Check out Matsumoto castle or the Himeji castle - I'm pretty sure these are a couple of the few remaining originals most are post war repos.
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Hey Muika,
That's pretty good. I picked up the same camera during the summer but haven't tried it out yet. I'd be really keen to hear how you found the unit? Is it any good? How easy is it to use? How you go mounting it on your helmet? Did you have any hassles getting it aimed correctly?