Oyuki kigan
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Originally Posted By: thursdayEco-Nazis are achieving the opposite of what they thought they were setting out to achieve.
Maybe, i'm not sure what the best way of changing cultural values is.
We do seem to be slowly progressing in terms of animal rights tho. You can't beat just any animal anymore. -
Originally Posted By: Black MountainWhat makes dolphins special is all the of things that other animals are not... cute, intelligent, trainable ect.
Thats criteria for treating animals humanely?
Quote:people see themselves as dolphins...
not the Japanese, apparently
Quote:no one thinks cows or pigs are cool and no one wants to be like one! It's true that it's all about perception... are you saying that is wrong?
Yes. Your arguement is not based in science nor fact,just some very arbitrary cultural values.
For example, our culture is fond of dogs. Pigs are just as intelligent as dogs, if not moreso. Korea has no problem eating dogs, and in fact beat the dogs before killing them, because they believe the adrenelin makes the meat tastier. What makes their cultural bias wrong and yours right?
What about the Japanese?
Besides, i have had many friends comment on how they would like to be reborn as pigs after they found out how many orgasms they have during sex. Google it.
Quote:Personally, I think there is a connection between dolphins and humans that doesn't exist with most animals... dogs and cats might fit this category as well.
that doesn't give me a lot to go on when determining what animals are worthy for slaughter and torture, and which aren't. -
Originally Posted By: Tubby BeaverOriginally Posted By: Black Mountain
So which is it? There is nothing to hide or the killings are unpleasant to look at?
I think if you watched what happens in any regular abbatoir you would find it unpleasant to look at. I think also the noise of the dolphins would trigger disgust in people, it sounds as if they are screaming. However lambs and pigs also have high pitched screams that would tug on our emotional heart strings yet there is no international furore. I also don't think it helps that the Eco-Nazis come scrambling out of their smelly holes and try to pressure Japan into changing...well done hippies, that's really gonna work!!
Nice juxtaposition, Eco-nazis.
Somehow, i don't think the nazis were the ones trying to save lives from systematic torture and killing.
Thats all, i'm back off to my smelly hole. -
Originally Posted By: Black Mountainis nothing to hide or the killings are unpleasant to look at? I've gotta agree with CB on this one... anyone would be upset if the way we slaughtered livestock was the tie it up and then stab it repeatedly until it bled to death.
With the sheer amount of animals we breed to keep up demand for meat, that happens more that one would like.
Unfortunately, i believe that having a video camera in a livestock facility is more of a rarity than that kind of behavior. -
My answer is on your facebook page, i won't repeat it here.
I hate what is happening in Taiji too, and i'm glad that you are doing your part in educating people about it.
My point is that i don't see how it the callous butchery of dolphin is fundamentally different from how we treat any other animal that is killed for human consumption.
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Well, some people do care. I think any animal, especially the ones that die for our appetites, deserve to be treated with a modicum of respect. We have laws against people mistreating pets, and the EU has recently banned seal products from Canada on similar grounds.
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Snowing pretty good all day today in Hakuba
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So if you haven't heard by now, the Cove is a doc about the annual dolphin cull in the seaside village of Taiji, Japan (and coincidentally, the sister village of Hakuba)
You can go see the movie, or even just search youtube for images. And its pretty barbaric. Animals are herded in the cove, metal rode are put into the water and banged around, disrupting the dolphins sonar, and they are either taken alive (for sale to aquariums) or butchered alive (and quite brutally) for meat.
There have been protests for a long time, and the village has gotten more and more viligant about hiding the slaughter every year, but the doc got made. (actually, there have already been several films reporting about Taiji, including Earthlings )
So have any of you seen it? I am all for affording animals some kind of protection against the idiocy of human greed, but i still don't quite understand the one-sided outrage against hunting and eating dolphins or whales. In Canada, we treat seals just as bad, if not worse. Not to mention the average factory-farmed animal. And none of the fish we eat ever ends with a pleasant death.
What makes dolphins so special?
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prostitution
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Karuizawa is really, really crowded tho. Not great for beginners.
A bigger hill might be better. Total beginners will be better off hiking up a bit on an easy slope for the first bit rather than hitting the lifts anyways.
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You partially answered my question.
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Originally Posted By: RobBrightSomeone just having fun in the ski park. MASSIVE air.
Um, just a question, but when did they start calling them SKI parks?
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The whales still has a way to go before they even out the score.
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Originally Posted By: triplerThose temps match very well with my experience and what I've heard of good and bad seasons over the last 5 years.
I agree on any given day a cold temp doesn't mean it's going to snow but averaged over a season it does. I doubt there's ever been a really cold season with a lack of snow.
especially in a country where all the weather has to cross an ocean to get here -
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Snowboarded for 20 years and never really seriously wore one. Never hit my head that hard.
Until last season, on a very small kicker that i had been doing all season. Broke some ribs and knocked myself out when i somehow launched wrong. On a simple straight air.
I learned my lesson and am wearing one in the park this year.
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OMG JAPAN IS SO WEIRD!!!
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Climate change is warping weather patterns fast enough to be felt in one human lifetime. I'm not sure there is much 'normal' weather anymore.
That being said, we had weather like this last February as well. But that was not a normal year by any standard.
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Originally Posted By: spook
Oyuki, you seem pretty into pipe/competitive riding, so correct me if I'm wrong about any of the following:
Holy moly, how big did Shaun White go? I didn't know how much hype there was, but he went huge! Super stylish, smooth and bigger than everyone else.
It was a bummer the Japanese riders blew their second runs, but I didn't think they were nuts enough to place anyway. It seems like inverted tricks, especially those double corks things, are now the norm. Watching dudes do them back to back, and one of them switch was mental.
I thought the Finnish dude who came second was oveerscored - the Swiss guy (Ipod...?) went huge in his first run and I thought that deserved a place, but then I'm just a punter watching it on TV. I'm sure the judges got it right.
And finally, how come the Japanese guys didn't have the same uniforms? And some guys were riding blank boards while others were rocking sponsor stickers. I thought the IOC had a blackout ban on sponsors?
Actually, i don't see much style in most of Shauns tricks. He really is like Tony Hawk in that sense, he does amazing technical stuff, but doesn't tweak it or style it much, like his first air in the pipe. Just a tucked melon, instead of a stretched-out method like the other guys. It was big tho.
Too bad about Kokubo too, he was tweaking the pant off those McTwists. Aono tho, he didn't have much of a chance sisnce i don't think he got inverted once.
And it was nice to see so many kids there doing back-to-back double corks, they must have trained so intensely to get them in such a short period of time. I was especially suprisd to see the french dude doing them on a reverse camber board, everyone says they don't have that much edge hold in the pipe, but he was sending it.
ger- The Mctwist comes from a guy in the 80's called Mike McGill, who did it on a skateboard.
SKI- I liked the US uniforms, they were a homage to the early 90's with the denim and flannel. Nothing too flashy, not like Ryo 'Snowboard Fashion Vomited on Me' Aono's stuff. The Japanese kids were evidently allowed to wear their sponsors stuff, however horrible.
I thought the French team's moustaches were classy. -
Um, can we talk about how awesome the halfpipe was?
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Very few ski hills get snow all the time. For the other 99% of us that don't always get to go to those places, we learn to deal with what we have, and maybe, just maybe, have fun.
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if people skied/snowboarded as much as they bantered about important nothings on the forums they would be able to handle a little ice without complaint, and free up some bandwidth
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a guy i went to school with, Rob Fagan, got 5th in boardercross, i see.
And you're right, not JJ Thomas, Ross Powers got gold (but still, when was the last time you heard anything about him?)
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Originally Posted By: gerSnowboarding. What an irony. What a joke. Just a bunch of posers thinking they're so anti-establishment, so alternative, so anti-mainstream.
so 15 years ago
"The Cove" wins an Oscar
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A slaughterhouse I saw used nail guns on the animals, but i dont really know much about the entire industry though I have tried to learn to teach this to my students.
O.K., I hear ya, I dont think there is a difference between animals, yet we humans do look at them differently. Itd be nice if they (all) were killed with one blow.
so as long as the dolphins were killed humanely, you'd be cool with it?