Ocean11
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farquah, does it have rails like this;
If it does, I have a board rack that you might be interested in for the cost of postage and a small consideration. I think it's supposed to hold two boards, but I seem to remember cramming 4 on.
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> I guess I am prejudiced, then we probably all are to some degree.
That's not quite what I meant. I meant that the language you used suggests something beyond what the original speaker said, so by interpreting what he said without sufficient reason, you prejudiced the terms of subsequent discussion.
Reading Harris does rather tend to encourage a tendency towards militant anti-religiosity.
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How does the shovel ride? The handle looks a bit too close to get your feet on it comfortably...
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You could supplement the Dawkins with The End of Faith by Sam Harris.
I don't agree that he's calling for the 'destruction' of Israel, which suggests killing its inhabitants. For somebody who is discussing sensitivity to language, yours is also quite prejudicial. The solution which he proposes is not unreasonable on the face of it, and it's the one most likely to happen in the end (whenever that is). You know that people are now leaving Israel because they can't stand it any more... I'd listen to your friend if I were you.
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Rag-Doll, there's no disingenuousness involved. On the contrary, that take is an example of ignorance and prejudice of Westerners.
In the Islamic world, one can talk about the Zionist Entity and the regime occupying Al-Qods without actually including all Jews. Palestine used to be a region where Arabs and Jews mixed - and it's only through savage ethnic cleaning that that situation is being undone. What Ahmadinejad and before him Khomeini were talking about was undoing the state of apartheid in Palestine. States and regimes are different from peoples, and again, it is crass Westerners who are stupid enough to constantly conflate them all.
There are plenty of Jews who would be happy to see Israel be wiped off the map and the Zionist Entity forgotten.
I'm not a big fan of Islam or indeed any other religion, and I don't approve of the way people like Hilaly express themselves. But I don't think it dignifies us in the West to play completely stupid either.
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My domain and business website is hosted by a company in the US at the moment and it's very cheap - about $40 a year, if that. But the mail provided is flaky, and they have zero support.
So I checked out KDDI and their cheapest hosting deal is 3,200 yen per month - a much bigger hit.
Can anybody recommend a good hosting service, either in Japan or overseas, that's cheaper than KDDI?
Thanks.
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samurai, that's a very formalistic arrangement you've selected for your quiver. But it's a tad reminiscent of a military funeral. Toque's more naturalistic arrangement is nice, although cataloging his gear is not so easy.
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> Rock Lobster
- The B-52's
Trouble is with that, once you're committed, you're in for the long haul. When you're racking your brains for the right gesture to go with 'there goes a narwhal', it begins to feel like a life sentence. 'Tiger Feet' often proves regrettably irrestible in the same way.
I find 'Good Thing Going' by Sugar Minott very enticing, but you don't hear it much.
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Actually, yes, it was strictly true. She doesn't have an uncle Ahmed, and he wouldn't be able to get in anyway because the door is always locked.
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Actually seeing Spielberg's "Munich" rather whetted my appetite for some authentic James Bond. The bicycle pump guns were worthy of early Bond films.
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> Are you sure that all muslim women wearing hijabs in their rooms are safe?
No. Her uncle Ahmed might not have been listening closely enough at the mosque and may respond wantonly because of what he knew she was wearing under her khumur.
It's an uncertain world, which is why religion makes up rules.
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Not at all. The crux of the matter for any civilized behaviour is learning to strike a balance between provocation and response. More civilization tends to accumulate when people try not to provoke wantonly and try not to respond wantonly. The good Mufti was addressing one part of the equation, and most people are simply too prejudiced or stupid to understand what he said.
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You're committing a logical fallacy. What he says is strictly true. The opposite of what he says is not automatically open to the interpretation you and everybody else have supplied.Quote:Originally posted by soubriquet:
It seems fairly clear from the quote that he considers women who leave the home to be fair prey. Possibly also women who leave their rooms without wearing a hijab.
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> For me champagne is little dry (right word?)
Me too. After the first couple of sips it has all the appeal of a glass of battery acid.
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Ah, it's good to see the actual quote rather than reports of the quote (which in the case of Muslims are often lies and distortions. The Prez of Iran hasn't called for Israel to be wiped off the map either...)
It's obviously a loose metaphor, not a precise analogy, so to understand it as 'immodestly dressed women are meat whom men can innocently rape' is plain stupid. Maybe Islamic discourse isn't as dumbed down and coarse as ours has become, so Muslims can understand that it's not a highly categorical statement.
So let's put it in perspective. The Mufti makes a statement about the risks of immodesty for Muslims. Then white women flock half naked to his mosque 'in protest'. Is it any wonder that Muslim men might start thinking that some white women are so stupid and insensitive and morally depraved that they might not even notice if they were raped?
(I think we Westerners need to look back at our own countries only 50 years ago before we start pointing fingers at 'medieval Muslims'. In my neighbourhood even 25 years ago, most of the women wore scarves to go out and wouldn't dream of sunbathing in the garden lest people (men) see them.)
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There's a bit more info about the details of the matter here .
It rather reminds me of the Pope getting stick for lecturing people, faithful or not, about the bits of the Bible they'd prefer to ignore. It seems reasonable for a religious community to address the issue of modesty in its own way, especially if it doesn't impinge on anybody else. To say that he is condoning rape is ridiculous, and dishonest.Quote:The wife of the former Guantanamo Bay detainee, Mamdouh Habib, says she was present when Sheik Al Hilaly gave the controversial sermon last month. Maha Habib says there was nothing wrong with the sermon. "I have heard the speech that he has said," she said. "I have heard his words and I can understand and assure you the way I understood it that he wasn't talking to the Western people, he was lecturing us and telling us our duty towards being a Muslim and what is said in the Koran."Instead of trying to deport this old bloke, they'd do better mounting a critique of his views, if indeed a coherent critique can be made.
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That's pretty harsh vron. Mr Kacho is only doing what he's supposed to - leading by example and doing his best to create the right atmosphere. And perhaps Mr Kacho has more, and worst stuff to forget than Miss OL. Have a heart.Quote:Originally posted by veronica:
I feel sorry for a few girls at our place who eat almost nothing and drink even less... but still pay the same as Mr Kacho who drinks and eats like a pig non stpp for 3 hours. -
Ah, I see, the design houses. I didn't know about them.
Here is the said Scimitar. It was grey summer's day in Bristol.
Glad to hear Kylie was fun. Sometimes people can be too cool for their own friggin' good eh?
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Vivaldi.
"Winter, Allegro non molto" is renaissance high-energy groove. It would make a fantastic soundtrack to a short snowboarding video, especially if the rockin' bits were extended slightly.
The opening bit where you're putting your boots on and slithering to the lifts sounds really cold and wintery but with that building excitement.
It even ends with the chattering of braking snowboards as a crew of increasingly fat gaijin haul up at the gondola again.
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rach, with Firefox you can also download a plugin that smells of chocolate.
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If some bishop says something stupid, would it be fair for the offended then to go and offend unrelated churchgoers in their parish with a display calculated to be unacceptable even in a city shopping centre?
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Those smaller cars of yesterday were really nice shapes. I sometimes see old Datsuns around and marvel at their elegant, sporty lines. They might not have been as well-appointed as today's vehicles, but even with a patina of age on them, they look really spiffy.
I spotted a Scimitar in Bristol harbour a few years back and couldn't take my eyes off it.
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rach, what's a quabble? Is it like a really bad quibble with a quarrel and a squabble?
And, feel free, let your total lack of browser sophistication just hang right out in these threads.
(Hint: You browser is probably the software you use the most, and being able to hide stuff you don't want to see, arranging topics and articles you want to read, and flipping between them with key commands is very nice. That's why folks use Firefox and Opera... For example, I chose to hide your 'ham' avatar because it always made me hungry - you can't do that in IE.)
what's everybody listening to now?
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I have a music challenge question.
Can anybody tell me the name or artist of the music on the latest Yanmar fishing boat TV CM. It's a trancey sort of track that I know I might even have on my HD, but I can't remember what it is. It's killing me.