NECK
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Pretty intense thread going on here
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Oh, I can vote again it seems on second inspection of the rules....... Therefore:
Hakuba 47 - 11
Hakuba Cortina - 11 (+)
Hakuba Goryu - 12
Happo-one - 6 (-)
Tsugaike Kogen - 5
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Looked in Nagano, no luck I'm afraid.
Thanks for keeping an eye out for me best skier
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for me the skin up is just as enjoyable, if not more than riding down.
i think id spend at least 2 days here, squatting overnight in the abandoned buildings would be an amazing experience.
That would likely involve B and E. Don't forget the down sleeping bag and wool socks
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isnt top to bottom vert a bit less than 1000m?
sounds like a cruisy day of skinning.
not a fan of sleds tbh.
looks like some really good terrain.
One possible issue - will the road be open? I don't know the answer, but that could be a big spanner in the works if its not.
So I would say around 1000m vert from base area to the top gondola station, maybe less. Then another 300m or so to the top of the best looking section, up and skiers right from the top gondola station. Yes, that whole section looks epic!
As to getting to the base area, the road up there would almost definitely not be cleared of snow by the city. I would say a mile or so to hike from the nearest open (snow cleared) road to the base area. Not too bad, but would add time to your eventual ascent.
You would have to have very little, or absolutely no backcountry experience to fall victim to the very obvious terrain trap that runs right down the middle of the old resort. If you know what you are doing, I can only imagine the fun that could be had there! The place gets hit so hard by every snowfall that rolls in across the Sea of Japan.
Still wouldn't really be too keen to hike all the way up there for just 1 or 2 runs though..... Lapping the s**t out of that top section with the aid of a sled would make for a day to remember
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In peak season it would be quite the hike from the very bottom on a splitboard or snowshoes..... Sled mission would be a win
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The Arai thread got me thinking about these places and I was wondering if there are any others worth checking out.
I've already been to Hakuba Highland and thought that was kinda cool.
I might check a few out and review them on my upcoming trip if people could be kind enough to mention some names so I could research where they are etc.
How was Hakuba Highland ozsnowbum? How long has it been abandoned for?
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Cool thread and nice pics Neck!
Followed all the 'abandoned' links on here...turns out one of the places (Hashima island) was a model/inspiration for a scene in Skyfall:
Yeah that place looks amazing! I have actually been to a few different abandonments, including another ski resort, but I have to say that Arai was the most interesting one so far for sure.
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The recycle stores around Nagano have loads of boards in winter, but seems like they switch them all out for the summer
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don't you like the channel system?
Not too keen on the idea Tubby. Never tried it, but had a Forum board with a similar system way back in the day and it sucked!
Also, I dont wanna buy est bindings for the fish, as it will be used only on those 15 or 20 tree powder days in the season. I hear the est to normal binding attachment thingys are not great.....
All that said, if a cheap 156 Fish with est mount system comes up, I may well take it
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I have been looking on ebay/ gumtree over here. Seen one fish in about 2 months and it went quick (missed it). Older model, no mini swallow tail and inserts/not est, all good for non est bindings. I think it went for about $200.
I am still looking and will keep an eye out for you but there will need to be two.
Picking up a 2nd hand burton Malaloo (bit more common - seen two come up) and NS summitt soon, found on ebay, and hopefully a fish soon to try out. Gunna try a few out, keep what I like and hopefully resell left overs, but for the price is not too much of a worry.
They have new cudas on sale for ~ $300/400 & heaps of freestyle boards / all brands
Why 156? Or fish cuit?
Thanks Rucky Inu.
Yeah, they come up fairly often on US and Canada auction sites fairly cheap, but get snapped up quick most of the time. The Never Summer powder sticks seem good too, but I am pretty much set on the Fish as my tree/powder board.
Want the 156 as it is ideal for me. I am 77 kgs and 5'11" (whatever that is in cms), so can easily get away with the 156 model. The shorter Fishcuit would work, but they all come with the est mount system I think.
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What does a Burton Fish look like, my local Book Off has a lot of boards, if you post a picture I'll have a look for you. (Yes I know I could check the web for it, but I probably would get it wrong, I don't know much about boards)
Yeah, it looks like the photo Beaverinho posted, but the older ones don't have the mini swallow tail going on. Lemme know if your Book Off has one. Like Black Mountain said, people here don't get rid of them as often as people who live in less snowy parts of the world
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I am so desperate to get my hands on a Burton Fish it's not even funny!
Not a big fan of Burton boards in general, but the Fish is something I need in my life.
Looking to sniff out an older model (2002-2008) ideally, with the regular (for Burton) mount holes. The 156 model would be best and don't wanna spend an arm and a leg to get it.
Can anyone here on SJ (in Japan) help make my dreams come true?
Pleeeeease
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Hakuba 47 - 7
Hakuba Cortina - 9 (+)
Hakuba Goryu - 8
Hakuba Iwatake - 5
Hakuba Norikura - 4
Hakuba Sanosaka - 2 (-)
Happo-one - 4
Tsugaike Kogen - 6
AT LAST!!! REVENGE ON TSUGAIKE!!! Once we're done with this tiny little insignificant area, can we do the big 7?
What are you on about ippy???
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Go Native has the right idea
. Niseko is basically a powder free-for-all. Hakuba has more to offer, but to get the best out of it you need a lot more experience. -
Hmmm, Happo-one does have about 10% more vertical, but Niseko has the steeper max run.
No stats to back up the following, but IMHO Niseko has far more skiable terrain than Hakuba, but Hakuba's on-piste terrain is more varied and interesting.
Shinkansen to Nagano has made the Hakuba region an easier trip (from Tokyo) than getting to Niseko.
When it dumps in Hakuba the snow is as good as anywhere, but it doesn't dump as reliably as Niseko.
Pretty sure Blimey Cider means Hakuba as a resort area, rather than just Happo as a resort
If he meant just Happo resort, then Niseko wins my vote.
If he meant Hakuba as a resort area, with all the resorts in close proximity to each other, then Hakuba keeps my vote as it dwarfs Niseko and has loads more to offer.
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Yeah mamabear, if I only had a week or two per year to shred then I would choose Niseko. Sure to get the snow and more than enough terrain to keep you entertained for a week or two. I usually manage to get a week there in the season, but didn't manage to get there last season
. I missed the place for sure!Hakuba just has more to offer in terms of terrain, pitch, vert and variety. Not as much snowfall as Niseko, but it's a big mountain environment with rideable aspects into June and beyond if you are willing to work hard for your turns. You would be hard pushed to get bored of riding in Hakuba.
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If you only have a week, I would say Niseko.
If you have a month/season/lifetime, then I would say hands down Hakuba.
Therefore, Hakuba wins my vote
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It's always nicer to share the humiliation and stigma of being an avid fun-skier!
Yeah, but the fact that we do it tandem style does decrease the stigma somewhat though I think
I've got a feeling it's gonna be the next big thing!
Now we just need to fashion together something similar for our rollerblades during the off season
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It's always nicer to share the humiliation and stigma of being an avid fun-skier!
Yeah, but the fact that we do it tandem style does decrease the stigma somewhat though I think
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Snowboarder, but, in the past few seasons I have been out on skis a couple of times...
I'd love to be proficient enough to backcountry ski... just can't pull myself away from the board long enough!
You forget to mention the fun skis you ride every other weekend
Shhhhhhhhhhh! Damnit!
I forgot to add that those are the weekends that we ride together.........
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Snowboarder, but, in the past few seasons I have been out on skis a couple of times...
I'd love to be proficient enough to backcountry ski... just can't pull myself away from the board long enough!
You forget to mention the fun skis you ride every other weekend
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Sounds like YOU were the one that caused it to go under
Nuffin to do wiv me Guv'nor! I'm innocent!
I was trying to tell him where he was going wrong!
I reckon your bushy grilling scared them all from coming back to work
Hakuba or Niseko?
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Rusutsu is definitely worth checking out. Had a couple of epic days there