Sciclone
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Been there in Mid-Late Feb and there was plenty to play in off the runs. I ended up having to commando crawl out of some deeper stuff, because I followed a snowbunny who floated over the powder, but my heavier figure sunk down. Quite a few cat-tracks and trees to muck around in, that aren't too far from the runs.
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I had it happen to my sister when I was teaching her. The check strap was old/rotted and snapped, sending her board careening down Ichinose Family. Fortunately didn't hit anyone, but she was so embarassed, she just walked down the slope back to the hotel.. sending me to retrieve the board...
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Hi Ian,
I looked into the rentacar thing a couple of years ago. It would depend on how many people you have with you. For just yourself or another person, it isn't worth it (IMO).
In Nagano, there is a Nissan Rentacar and a Toyota rentacar straight across the road from the station. If you've gone all that way via the bullet train, then you are better off paying $20 and catching the bus straight to Hakuba or Nozawa. Then you aren't paying for a car to sit in a carpark.
I've seen plenty of 2wd with snow tyres up the mountains, but it would also depend on how confident you are with driving on unfamiliar roads with snow hazards and black ice.
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Just for the record, you would be very pushed to make it to Shiga Kogen from Yuzawa in 1.5 hours.
In good conditions and with your foot down, it's more like 2 hours.
No, meant via train and bus from Tokyo.
It's 70-90 mins to Yuzawa on the shinkansen
90mins to Nagano on the shinkansen, 90mins (avg)on the bus from Nagano to Ichinose.
I love the space, elevation and varied terrain of Shiga Kogen, but when you only have 6 days to go snowboarding in, every minute counts. Plus my mum and sister don't ski/snowboard, so with Yuzawa being a proper town, not just a resort, they can potter around the shops.
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WV, it has to be Yuzawa as that's where we are going, due to time constraints. I can't even afford to lose the extra 1.5 hours to get to Shiga Kogen, or I'd be head there first.
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I have been on them a couple of times they are great fun, once was in Gunma the other in Niigata.
I believe it was at Yuzawa Nagazato??? Although was some years ago now so I may be mixing that resort with another.
Yuzawa Nakazato is the place that advertises that they have it, but there is no pricing on the site or link (from what I can see) to see how to book.
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I've read that there is snowmobiling lessons/free ride available in or around Yuzawa.
Can anyone help locate information?
Would these be suitable for 2 minimal Japanese speakers?
What is the cost?
How do I book?
All the sites I find just say that there is snowmobiling, not where and when to do it.
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I reckon you'd possibly be better off getting it from the Yaesu side. There's still a ton of taxis.
Or else get a subway from Marunouchi station to Ginza and get a taxi from Ginza station to your hotel. Taxis in Tokyo can be quite expensive.
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Unfortunately, I didn't get to go off the rice slope. No bowl, no second quad and the two top-left (on the piste map) lifts were also closed as well as the gondola.
There was plenty of powder in the nearby town and fields though, so if I had gone under better circumstances, i think I would have enjoyed it a lot more.
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Ok, before I start this trip report I must confess that I wasn't in the best frame of mind when I came to Maiko to use my free ticket. My snowboarding partner (my brother) was sick and couldn't get out of bed/onsen, I was teaching two noobs who lacked drive and the other 2 who came with us were complaining heavily. Add to that some warmer conditions and wind affecting lift/gondola operation, flat camera battery and you have the makings of a bad starting point.
After getting to Echigo-Yuzawa around 9am, we made our way to the east exit, before asking where the Maiko bus left from. We had to walk down a little passage to the second car park, but there was a bus waiting there.
It took roughly 40 mins to get from Echigo-Yuzawa to Maiko, as it goes first to the Maiko resort/hotel, before coming back and going to the main gondola area. But fortunately the bus was free (unlike the Kagura/Naeba bus). Upon getting inside, I was greeted with the sight of snow bunnies. We had come on a Wednesday, which is girls day, so the slopes were packed with girls, a lot of whom were learners. This meant one of the noobs with my got the 1000Y off the normal ticket price. We set ourselves up and got ready to head up the main quad, as the gondola had closed due to wind.
I wasn't expecting to have to skate to start with, but there is probably a 30 metre skate from the lift to where the basic slope starts. This was a little slushy due to the traffic and conditions, but we just got on with it. The first run down the bunny slope took 40mins because of the 2 noobs, the other guy got bored and went exploring, so we hopped on the lift again to do it again. This run only took 20mins, but at the end of it, the girl landed awkwardly and jarred her shoulders (common beginner injury) so we headed in for a beer and crepe.
This helped ease the pain, so after getting ourselves braced for the cold, we went up again. This was a little more awkward, as even though they had done better, they had starting losing stamina, so whilst coming down, the girl fell and got her thumb trapped under her board, bruising it heavily. This was the end for her day, and her husband who was also learning piked out because of knee and back stiffness. We headed in for a bit of lunch, before meeting up with the guys that were also with us. They had criss-crossed the mountain, but were unimpressed, and just wanted to call it a day as well (and it was only 1pm). So even though I still had energy, I didn't have anyone to continue boarding with.
While we were waiting for the bus to get back, it started raining/sleeting lightly, then as soon as we left the shelter of the lodge, it started pelting down with wet snow. Within a minute of boarding, cars had a thin layer of slush on them which would have slightly improved conditions.
My pros and cons:
Pros:
Free bus from E-Y
Crepes and a good selection of food at the lodge (both japanese and western)
a good beginner slope for teaching on
Cons:
Only 1 linking run between the 2 halves.
A lot of terrain inaccessible if Gondola is closed
Courses could have better signage.
I would go here again, simply because I don't think I was in the right frame of mind when going to give it an in depth, fair review. I will upload photos when I get my camera.
Thanks again to the SJ crew and Minamiuonuma resorts for the ticket.
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Come Friday, I'll be at Shiga Kogen for the weekend, leaving Tuesday morning to head to Yuzawa. I've been at SK during the Feb long weekend a couple of years ago, and the crowds seem to spread quite well.
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so i can finally use the snowjapan app (there isnt one for android).
Yes, there is, I have it on my phone.
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Classic!
Yes, the higashidateyama gondola is quite egg shaped... Cool retro
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Furano zone's was pretty good. Take it up to the top, hammer down the runs then catch the next one 4 mins later.
The one's at Yakebitai are also decent. A little slower, but not as slow as the triple that goes up the side of Giant.
In someways I prefer them. 2 previous knee injuries (1 each knee) mean that leaving one strapped in puts a heap of strain on them and by the end of the day, they really hurt.
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Furano is better than niseko because
Minimal chance of Bogan infestation.
When we went there, I think I only saw a handful of westerners. It was great as a first Japan snow experience, and probably why I go to Shiga Kogen instead of Hakuba or Niseko. What's the point in travelling halfway round the world to a different country/culture, just to see the same thing you do at home.
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The Shiga Kogen timetable can be found here: http://www.nagadenbus.co.jp/robus/2012fuyu/shigawin.htm
The Nozawa can be found here: http://www.nagadenbus.co.jp/robus/2012fuyu/nozawawin.htm
I think Madarao and Kit-shiga can be found herehttp://www.nagadenbus.co.jp/express.html
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If anyone is in Japan, I can wholeheartedly recommend Gush snowgear (check rakuten or Jimbocho stores). I've had my pants since 2008, and even on a rainy day in Hotham I was kept pretty dry.
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Looking good... Can't wait to go visit YK along with Gala and Ishiuchi Maruyama.
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Just watch out for puddles with those skinny tyres. My sister was riding one last year, and hit a puddle, went splat and had the heavy steel bike land on her foot.
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Have just retired an old Burton AK down jacket and my 6yo Gush pants (30k waterproof, kept me dry really well) for some new high mm/gm stuff from Rakuten. New salomon synapse boots to replace worn 6yo ones, smith i/ox goggles to replace old scratched Oakley ducati wisdoms and some Aldi snow socks and compression skins.
Who really gives a tinker's cuss if you look good on the slopes? Considering the amount of old guys I see wearing 80's fluoro gear and no-name goggles, I'd say they don't particularly care either. That latest style jacket will be superceded next year, and if doesn't keep you warm, then it's failed in its basic function.
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So jealous... I will have to make it up to Niseko one day or just tour around Hokkaido, Car Danchi-style.
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Hi all,
Just wondering if there was any boarder cross courses (or similar) in Yuzawa.. would love to have a go, as I like tight, technical courses with good speed.
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Or you could take the bullet train from Kyoto to Nagoya and Wideview Shinano from Kyoto to Nagano.. probably not as cheap (about 9860Y unreserved one way), but possible quicker at 240mins instead of 440mins
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It's especially helpful if you are staying a night or two in Tokyo. Just takkyubin your stuff, rather than lugging unwieldy board bags and suitcases up/down stairs and on and off trains.
Saves your back also.
The gnarliest (official) ski course in Japan is...
in Snow talk, trip reports, Japan avalanche & backcountry
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Not too steep, but definitely gnarly if it's been moguled up, icy and with heaps of people is Giant at Shiga Kogen. I think I came close to doing an unintentional flip after I launched off a mogul when someone cut across my path.