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bobby12

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  1. We considered it but prices were so high and getting higher every day.

     

    Its the oil surcharge isnt it, it is 5man per person to europe now.

     

    We are gonna go for xmas, I go tmy ticket already on airmiles. But the oil surcharge is rumoured to be going up again in the summer, so it is going to cost me about 12man per person i reckon.

  2. According to the laws of the game is is OK, so obviously they cant be fined for it.

     

    I just meant in terms of the spirit of the game it is sickening to watch. I was surprised the crowd didnt get onto them more.

     

    They should have stopped pretending to play though. They might as well have just left the ball on the centre circle and given each other back rubs.

  3. My point is that a citizen is bound by the laws of his country. In this case, the law at the time said it is not illegal to kill jews in the gas chambers.

     

    It is not workable to, on the one hand say that someone must obey the law, and on the other hand say it is ok to break the law if you think that law is wrong. That is what this ruling is doing, it is punishing him by todays laws instead of the laws of the day. If you do that, it is a dangerous precedent because it implies that if you follow the laws of today you may be later punished when the laws change.

  4. Is he being punished for brutality or for accessory to murder?

     

    If the latter, surely 5 years is not enough for 28,000 murders.

     

    This raises the question of what counts as "accessory". In the case of a gang killing, it is easy to see how someone is supporting the murder. But in the nazi case it was totally different. Killing Jews was institutionalised: the government was behind the idea. In that case, it is a paradigm shift. He was operating in an environment where it was NOT ILLEGAL to do what he was doing. Then, 70 years later, we try to prosecute him from a *different paradigm* where it is now considered ILLEGAL. 70 years later, we say "OK in that paradigm your actions were legal, but um... you should have followed your own morality outside and acted against the establised paradigm". If we convict this guy then, following that logic to its conclusion, you have set a precedent saying that it is OK to disobey the law today because in future the law (paradigm) may change. This undermines the entire justice system.

  5. Quote:
    A German court has found John Demjanjuk guilty of helping to murder at least 28,000 Jews at a Nazi death camp in World War II.

    He was sentenced to five years in prison, one year less than prosecutors had asked for.

    Prosecutors said the Ukraine-born Demjanjuk, 91, was a guard at Sobibor camp in Poland in 1943.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-12321549

    How do you feel about this?

    My personal feeling is that, of course, killing people in gas chambers was complete evil. However, I feel it is not fair to punish this individual for his part in it. I would imagine that he had little choice but to work there, if he quit he would get punished or starve. I do not know how much choice he had, but if there was little choice (As I imagine) then it seems very harsh to punish him.
  6. By coincidence I got an iphone from work yesterday (we are making an iphone app), but as I expected my feeling towards it is 'meh'.

     

    It came in handy this morning to check the footy result on the train to work, but beyond that I can't imagine when I will use it. (And I can survive 30mins to wait to get to work to check that kind of thing).

     

    Its a pain to type on it, and I do not spend much time on the road, so for me it seems not much use. I think these things are good for salesman types who are always out the office, possibly for students with a lot of free time too.

     

    How do you guys use yours?

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