g'day 0 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Anyone got one and comment on the best to get? Cheers Link to post Share on other sites
oo 1 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 I've often been tempted but never bought one. Those new Sony Clie machines look really nice. Link to post Share on other sites
danz 0 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 got my sister the new ViewSonic V35 pocket pc... it costs $300 and is one of the fastest out there...certainly more bang for the buck than the clie or other palm os pda's.. danz Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 I had a Handspring Platinum (Palm OS) and now I've got a Toshiba Genio E (Pocket PC). I never used the expansion slot on the Handspring, and if you buy anything for it, it soon comes up to the price of a Pocket PC. If you want to play music, forget about Palm OS. With Flash Memory, my PPC doubles nicely as an MP3 player. Also, Palm is not particularly good at syncing with your PC, while PPC is nearly flawless. I can't remember using PDFs on the Palm but the PPC handles them nicely. Benefits of Palm are easy operation, and lots of free software, but it really is quite limited otherwise. PPC can do a lot more, and is ultimately better value I think. (It has a built-in voice memo function). Drop them hard though, or get them wet, and a fair wad of money goes straight down the drain... If you work at a company and go to lots of meetings, it's great to have a PDA because you can play with it constantly and look like a keano when actually you're skivving off in plain view. They're nice to have for train commutes too - the games, e-books, music, email and internet functions can keep you from going more crazy than normal. Link to post Share on other sites
viv&kev 0 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 One of my friends has a new Clie (NX70 I think it is), it looks awesome and he's really happy with it - even though they're quite expensive. OK someone explain to me - if you put in a wireless LAN card into one, can you just connect to the internet then? And you use the connect info you use for your home PC?? May sound silly question but no-one seems to explain it clearly. Cheers kev Link to post Share on other sites
viv&kev 0 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 This is the one Link to post Share on other sites
DrMabuse 0 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Palm has improved a lot. The new Clies look really good. Even can do video now. Check this out: http://www.brighthand.com/article/NX70V_Review Link to post Share on other sites
enderzero 0 Posted November 28, 2002 Share Posted November 28, 2002 If you put an 802.11 wireless card in the PDA then you can connect to 802.11 wireless networks. This does not mean you can just walk around with the thing online at all times. If you want it to work in your house you will have to buy an 802.11 access point and hook it up to your home network. Then you can share your broadband connection with the PDA granting you have a broadband router. There are two different flavors of 802.11 - 802.11a and 802.11b. 802.11a is the newer one that operates in the 5.8GHz range and is much faster. It is also more expensive. 802.11b has been around longer and is therefore cheaper but slower. It operates in the 2.4GHz range. Make sure the Wireless Access Point you buy supports the flavor of wireless you have. I have yet to see an 802.11a enabled PDA, but they may be available in Japan. Note: If you have a 5.8GHz or 2.4GHz phone they may interfere slightly with your wireless network (for a or for b respectively). Many places in the US have 802.11b networks running in places like coffee shops, cafes, and shopping malls. Some you can just use for free - some you have to pay for. Your computer will detect a connection when it is available and ask you if you want to connect. All this being said, the wireless add-on you are talking about may not be 802.11 at all. It could be a 'Bluetooth' card which allows you to transfer data over very short distances (just a couple of meters). This allows you to transfer data from you bluetooth enabled PDA (or cell or whatever) back and forth to your bluetooth enabled PC without having to connect any wires. Just get you PDA close and it can automatically sync up. When I was in Japan I saw a bunch of ads for AirH or something. This is a cellular type modem that you can hook up to a notebook and probably a PDA. It is a modem and not a network card, I believe, so you still have to have an ISP to connect to...but that is quite possibly included. I don't know too much about this but am anxious to learn more. You may also be talking about some other kind of device I am not familiar with. Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted November 28, 2002 Share Posted November 28, 2002 Dumb question, but NTT quickly be able to give me this "802.11 wireless networks"?? At the moment I have FletsADSL (8M). Anyone help someone in the dark here? Link to post Share on other sites
klingon 10 Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 You need a wireless (musen) LAN maching attached to your modem. Probably set you back up to 30,000 yen, but once you do that you'll be able to connect multiple PCs including your PDA to the internet without the cables. The new Clie looks really cool. Looks like something out of Star Trek even. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 I haven't seen the real thing so it's hard to judge for sure, but it looks to me like more of Sony's typical 'Break Me' design... And what's with the twizzling screen? Humans have rotating necks which is why that sort of thing is not so very necessary. I'll have to get me to an electronics shop one of these days and discover the new wonders (none of which I really need...) Link to post Share on other sites
backatsap 0 Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 The twizzling screen enables you to bring it over and close the thing with the screen up - very cool. Design wise it looks great. DOn't know where your break me thing comes from, I often find Sony design to be excellent. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 I see. Now it all makes more sense. An innovative solution to the problem of what to do with the cover when it's not being used as a cover. I've heard from several heavy users of Sony gear that it breaks easily as often it's too complex and not rugged enough. You can see that this would apply with the Clie design, unless it's very well made. Link to post Share on other sites
backatsap 0 Posted November 29, 2002 Share Posted November 29, 2002 I see. I've always really liked Sony gear, and this looks like a great piece of kit too. I was playing around with it in Akihab the other day and I wouldn't mind having one. Link to post Share on other sites
Dr Hfuhruhurr 0 Posted November 30, 2002 Share Posted November 30, 2002 I actually bought one of them Sonys a couple of weeks back. PEGNX70V to be exact, the one in the photo. It's a great little machine, looks sweet and beautiful screen - best I have ever seen on a PDA. The camera (takes pics and even video) is better than can be expected, and I have it hooked up so I can download mail and browse the web too. I like gadgets anyway, but this is a very very nice one. Expect to pay around 50,000 yen for it though Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted December 1, 2002 Share Posted December 1, 2002 Not seen the Sonys, but they do look nice. The Pocket PCs don't excite me at all. Oh goodie, Solitaire! Link to post Share on other sites
blinkin'ek 0 Posted December 2, 2002 Share Posted December 2, 2002 Got quite a few Sony goodies myself, and always feel they are well made and sturdy. No complaints. Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 No one able to help out on that wireless thing then ? Link to post Share on other sites
zebedee 1 Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Scouser, you'll need a wireless broadband router attached to your current ADSL tower. It'll probably put you back about 3man. Get a card in your PDA (and other PCs) and you're set for no cable internet access. Link to post Share on other sites
amandanism 0 Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Quote: Originally posted by Ocean11: I've heard from several heavy users of Sony gear that it breaks easily as often it's too complex and not rugged enough. You can see that this would apply with the Clie design, unless it's very well made. i am not a great fan of sony.alot of the sony stuff i have bought has broken within 1-2 years of use. i much prefer smaller brands like aiwa (they dont make pda's mind) Link to post Share on other sites
newtoallthis 0 Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 I like Sony gear, never had a problem with it. Interesting to hear that some people seem to. Problem gear I have experienced in my time has come from Gateway, JVC, Panasonic. Link to post Share on other sites
jared 0 Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Sebedee, what sort of range would you get? ie how far away from your router can you go before it stops working? Link to post Share on other sites
sunrise 0 Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 In response to the original question - it depends on your needs and budget of course. I only use my PDA when I'm travelling. I bought a used Palm Vx with modem, got a folding keyboard and that's all I need to do email when travelling. (also use the address book and calendar). Works just fine. I don't need anything faster or better than that, so it didn't cost too much either. Of course if I was needing it for other things then that would be a different story...... Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 I'd like to know that too, And is speed compromise? Link to post Share on other sites
zebedee 1 Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 Not sure about range, but anywhere in my home is just fine. I heard it was 20 meters, but that may be incorrect. As for speed, doesn't seem to have changed at all. Link to post Share on other sites
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