slow 0 Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 Everywhere in Tokyo, we turn off the lighting tonight from 8pm to 10 pm. The Tokyo tower, too. Are you going to join this event, too? We are having candle party tonight and we'll see what's going on from the roof! Link to post Share on other sites
BigSausage 0 Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 Er, what for? Link to post Share on other sites
slow 0 Posted June 22, 2003 Author Share Posted June 22, 2003 Econominization of electricity?? (Is this proper English?) We are going to lack electricity this summer. Link to post Share on other sites
slimeypete 0 Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 Can I watch the telly? Link to post Share on other sites
sam_casper 0 Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 so everyone in the city turns off the lights... is this everynight? it musnt be?? would turing off the lights for just 1 night help?? mmm...?? Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted June 22, 2003 Share Posted June 22, 2003 It would be better if Japanese people learnt to turn the damn lights off when it's not dark. I always made an impression as an English teacher by walking into the classroom, turning the lights off, holding up my hand in front of my face and checking that I could see it. It really freaked some of my students out that they could be in a room without a light on, however bright the day. Oh sorry, it was dark during the war when they were all born, so they have to have it bright for their psychological deprivation... Link to post Share on other sites
slow 0 Posted June 23, 2003 Author Share Posted June 23, 2003 Yeah, you'll see this on TV tonight. Some helicopters were on the sky. No Tokyo Tower, Rainbor Bridge, Roppongi Hills now. My friend said If we have summer time here in Japan, we can economize electricity?? I couldn't turn off my computer... Link to post Share on other sites
oo 1 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 I had electricity and lights last night My aircom was blasting. Link to post Share on other sites
Siem Reeves 0 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 If they just double the price then I'm sure we would see useage decline. Link to post Share on other sites
Goemon 0 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 We switched to candle power last night, but were disappointed that so many buildings still had lights running (yesterday was chosen for this feeble campaign since it's the longest day of the year). Seems that switching to daylight savings would certainly make sense for Japan? Link to post Share on other sites
slow 0 Posted June 23, 2003 Author Share Posted June 23, 2003 I know many buildings were still on but that campaign is dificult for the hotels or hospitals. Only symbolic buildings joined that for motivation. Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 I am not an expert, but a friend of mine is (he is an electricity trader. I might ask him what the story is). Anyhow, I do not think that reduced consumption today will help at all in managing anticipated future consumption that is greater than future demand. As commodities go, electricity is not like any other. If we use less crude oil today, we have more for periods in the future when there would otherwise have been a shortage. In terms of electricity, using less today will not help when usage peaks later in summer. It isn't like the electricity that was saved last night can be put in a battery for later use. The onbly viable logic that this non-expert can come up with is that water not used last night to produce hydro generated power is still in the dams and can be used later when power usage peaks at a level above supply capacity... had that water not been reserved through last nights brownout. What gets me is that we have brownout to avopid a shortage of power... when the fact is, a brownout IS a shortage of power. Starve today rather than starve tomorrow... either way, you are going to starve for a day. Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 When I build my house down under, I plan to be fully self-contained, using solar, hydro and wind power. This puppy is withdrawing from the power drain, and once alternative sources of enegry, coupled with efficiency gains are given the investment/backing they deserve, the supply will most certainly outstrip demand. How long powerful energy lobby groups will be able to keep logical gvt support for these projects at bay, however, remains to be seen... As an aside, I always thought that oil companies were the bane of the environment... recent adverts on TV have shown me, however, that they are the heroes of the environment, protecting it for the generations to come... Link to post Share on other sites
enderzero 0 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Well theoretically power surplus from an event like this one can be sold to pay for power that must be purchased at a later time. Though the power purchased when it is really needed would be considerably more expensive. This is how electricity is brokered between state and private utility companies in the US. The deregulation of the power utilities on the West Coast two years ago led to huge issues regarding these practices. But I am unaware if the process is the same for Japan, being that it is an island and all. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I thought it was more a symbolic thing than a practical step. A warning or foretaste of things to come... And like all these one-day campaign things, it won't have the slightest long-term effect. Link to post Share on other sites
Goemon 0 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Yeah, my understanding was that it was more symbolic and was not intended to have any real economic effect. It seems that another focus was that people might actually see some stars at night instead of the flash from the local pachinko parlor. Link to post Share on other sites
nzlegend 1 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 going along with Miteyak and the good thoughts about alternative power sources, has anyone else heard about this phenonmenal idea from Australia. The Solar tower a 1km high tower with a massive glasshouse apron, creating massive convection currents driving turbines in the tower. Superb idea, I really hope it eventuates Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 Great idea, even greater for the fact they might actually build it in the near future... Now what about a solar tower driven car... Link to post Share on other sites
viv&kev 0 Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 It always gets me too. When we go round to our Japanese friends house, it seems they just automatically put on all the lights for some reason - and keep them on all night, even in the toilet and other rooms we don't go in. WHY?!!? Link to post Share on other sites
slow 0 Posted December 20, 2003 Author Share Posted December 20, 2003 This happens again on 22 December. candle night There are many events around Japan. Link to post Share on other sites
Goemon 0 Posted December 20, 2003 Share Posted December 20, 2003 Looks like the people running Tokyo Tower are planning a different kind of candle event from the 23rd - 25th. Link to post Share on other sites
slow 0 Posted December 21, 2003 Author Share Posted December 21, 2003 Today's Tokyo Tower from Rainbow Bridge was beautiful! I saw Fujisan, too! Link to post Share on other sites
yodel 0 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Whats at the top of the Tower? Still haven't been. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 A TV transmitter. There's a bit of a problem with Tokyo Tawa - it's not tall enough for the job, and they're thinking of how they can get a taller one. Link to post Share on other sites
slow 0 Posted June 14, 2005 Author Share Posted June 14, 2005 Good, Good, This event getting bigger every year! This summer 33,897 places will join so far, Rainbow bridge, Tokyo Tower, convenience stores... And you'll find it in your town, too! 18th, 19th, from 8pm to 10pm. Let's lights out!! Link to post Share on other sites
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