AET 0 Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 OK so there's lots of discussion in the other AET thread, I thought it might be a good idea to get the general opinion (instead of just a few strongly opinionated and vocal people). So - JET Program - good or not Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Good idea - help you to feel better about it without addressing any points of substance... I voted that it's generally good, but because Toque is lazy about his spelling, I couldn't give it a gold star. Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Link to post Share on other sites
AET 0 Posted September 29, 2004 Author Share Posted September 29, 2004 You are a funny individual aren't you? Quote: help you to feel better about it without addressing any points of substance... Nooooo, as I said, I thought it might be a good idea to get the general opinion (instead of just a few strongly opinionated and vocal people). And it seems that it is getting a response from people as well, which was the whole idea behind it. Over to you and your 'wit'. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 You must remember AET that you leave yourself open to attack by The Intelligent One by not writing watertight essays explaining every single point and opinion. You should know better A poll quickly gathering a general opinion is obviously not sufficient. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Okay, good idea, I'll stay out of this then. I'll just lurk and see if you're keeping yourselves cheerful with the anonymous, uninformed 'general opinion' that you whistle up. Tara Link to post Share on other sites
jared 0 Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Good? Its good for the eikaiwa business, its good for lots of people I know that have done/are doing it, its good for students I assume and its good for me. But if I was paying for it I would scrap it in favor of something else. For the students the JET program is like taking the bus but paying for the shinkansen. The bus may be good, it may get me where I want to go, but if I'm spending so much money on it that I could take the "great" shinkansen I would always choose that over a bus - even if the bus drivers were having a great time and getting lots of money and think that the bus is "good". (guess who can see the bus stop and the shinkansen station from where he is sitting.) Link to post Share on other sites
2pints-mate 0 Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 I nearly applied for the JET Program way back, but bottled it at the last minute. Well it amounted to bottling it at the time, as funky as that sounds. I wonder how my life would have gone had I gone for it. Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Hey there is something wrong that I noticed with the poll AET should be ALT Not everybody teaches english. Most do but there are some teaching other languages as well. Link to post Share on other sites
AET 0 Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 Oops! Link to post Share on other sites
Honest John 0 Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 this art thing sounds like a good doss and a great way to get to Japan. yes? Link to post Share on other sites
base40 0 Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Lots of people do use Jet as a way to get to Japan, then move on when they are here. Link to post Share on other sites
Thunderbird2 0 Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Do we have many AETs, oops ALTs, on here? Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Judging by the poll results, around two-thirds of respondents... Link to post Share on other sites
AET 0 Posted October 2, 2004 Author Share Posted October 2, 2004 Or, then again, maybe not. Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Well, if you'd put yer balls on the block and set up the poll to find out how many jets vs non-jets like the program, we'd have some statistics that mean something more than the obvious, ie, a very large percentage of site users here are jet/aets. Answer number two is the default answer for anyone participating in the jet program who has any sense of self-worth. Link to post Share on other sites
AET 0 Posted October 2, 2004 Author Share Posted October 2, 2004 Quote: Answer number two is the default answer for anyone participating in the jet program who has any sense of self-worth. I totally disagree with that. Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Who, with a sense of self-worth, would continue to work for an organisation that they believed was a waste of money, providing next to no benefits, or more to the point, who would admit that to themselves or others? Link to post Share on other sites
AET 0 Posted October 2, 2004 Author Share Posted October 2, 2004 Hmmm, where in the poll does it specify the points believing that JET was: - a waste of money; - provides next to no benefits Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 How would you interpret 'generally not good' and 'awful' if not from a cost-benefit analysis, in fact, isn't the poll basically asking individuals to reflect on these aspects? I wouldn't work on a project for which I had that opinion. But by concentrating on my use of language you're missing my point. It would be more interesting/constructive to view the statistics if major components of bias were transparent (ie. opinions vs investment in program). Link to post Share on other sites
AET 0 Posted October 2, 2004 Author Share Posted October 2, 2004 Quote: It would be more interesting/constructive to view the statistics if major components of bias were transparent (ie. opinions vs investment in program). Agreed, that would be more interesting. It still makes your initial "judging by the poll results, around two-thirds of respondents..." rather worthless. Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Did you fail to notice the 'wink'... Link to post Share on other sites
AET 0 Posted October 2, 2004 Author Share Posted October 2, 2004 No Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Well, the wink indicates that I didn't take my comment seriously, but it could be true... as true as any other conclusion as could be drawn from this poll.. such as, 30% of respondents were jets hated the program 60% of respondents voted from hearsay, and liked what they heard etc. etc. which, let's face it, makes the whole poll, er... rather worthless Link to post Share on other sites
AET 0 Posted October 2, 2004 Author Share Posted October 2, 2004 I'm pretty sure you believed your comment. Anyway, yes, it doesn't really matter! Have a nice weekend. Link to post Share on other sites
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