johnson-san 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Anyone able to tell me? He was walking about under the Nozawa gondola. Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Kamoshika Link to post Share on other sites
johnson-san 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 Kamoshika. Cool. What is that in English, anyone know? Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 kamoshika Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Is that an echo FT? Good pictures JS But do you really need to start a different topic for each one? Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 My dictionary says "a Japanese serow / an antelope. It also gives me the very useful sentence カモシカのようにすらりとした脚 "legs like a gazelle's" Link to post Share on other sites
AK 77 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Well, hold on to your hats, 'cos I just happened to be reading about Kamoshika this morning.... It's 'Serow' in English but that isn't much help as they only live in Japan, Taiwan and parts of India, China and S.E.Asia. They are closely related to another animal nobody has heard of called a Goral. They are cloven hoofed mammals, of the family Bovidae (cows, sheep, giraffes, goats..) sub-family Caprinae - 'goat antelopes', and genus Nemorhaedus. Their sub-family name is probably their best description, although they are considerably less fleet of foot than most antelopes or mountain goats. They feed morning and evening and tend to rest from the sun or shelter from the snow during the middle of the day. They are fluffy! (That's a scientific term too) Especially their tails. In Japanese they seem to be classed as a kind of deer 'shika' but in latin taxonomy deer are a different family, Cervidae, but both of these families are part of the very broad order of Artiodactyla - 'even-toed ungulates' ie. animals that walk on their toes, on hooves of some kind. Well, wasn't that fun. Link to post Share on other sites
charlotte 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 They are cute. Thanks for that AK 77! I have seen one going up the Nozawa gondola once as well. I wanted to ski down there but conditions were bad and I didn't have the confidence. Link to post Share on other sites
AK 77 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I like them too. They are cute. I've never seen a young one though, maybe you have to go up in the summer and look to see that. I always consider it auspicious when i see animals (especially cute ones), or animal tracks in the snow, when out snowboarding. But then again I am a bit of a hippy. Link to post Share on other sites
tsondaboy 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Are you studying them AK, or just happened to stumble across an article about them in a magazine? Cool info. Link to post Share on other sites
AK 77 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I was actually raised by a couple of Kamoshika. It was a very caring but somewhat hairy environment. You can't tell too much now, apart from choice of hairstyle. Link to post Share on other sites
tsondaboy 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Quote: Originally posted by AK 77: I was actually raised by a couple of Kamoshika. It was a very caring but somewhat hairy environment. You can't tell too much now, apart from choice of hairstyle. Harry? Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Some Japanese people seem to think it is hilarious if you compare them to "goats". Link to post Share on other sites
gamera 0 Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 My dictionaries say "Japanese anthelope" for Kamoshika. Link to post Share on other sites
snobee 0 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Bushpig - or a relative of. Link to post Share on other sites
SirJibAlot 0 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Year of the boar dude... Link to post Share on other sites
igloo 3 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 It looks a bit like a pig with a coat on. Link to post Share on other sites
samurai 0 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I thought it was a Kagi. I have one living near the hills where I run in the summer. They're dumb. Kind of freaky how I can run up on him and he won't budge. I have to charge and scream to get him to move. Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 what's a kagi? Snobee, you should know better... Link to post Share on other sites
snobee 0 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Bushy - no insult intended. But from the angle the foto was taken, I'd swear he's one of the razorback clan snorting around back of Broken Hill. Altho a tad cleaner. Link to post Share on other sites
samurai 0 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I'm sorry, yagi, mountain goat. But probably not as fun to hunt as this, which stood 5 meters on its hind legs. The largest in the world, currently on exhibit at the anchorage airport. (sadly, not me in the photo.) edit; no image afterall. The link just goes to my inbox, sorry. Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 and sadly, no photo either... Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted February 15, 2007 Share Posted February 15, 2007 I could swear I saw an inoshishi up there once... do they treck onto the slopes in winter at all? Are you an inoshishi, Bushpig? Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 What else would I be? We don't tend to like snow, but do venture into snowy areas from time to time. It's our feet, you see. We suck at walking on the snow, cos of our hooves. (actually, kinda like me in Hakuba over new years on our hike up Norikura - I didn't have snow shoes so had to boot pack it! ) Link to post Share on other sites
kkk 7 Posted February 16, 2007 Share Posted February 16, 2007 I saw an inoshishi last season somewhere in Yuzawa at a ski resort (not on the slopes just at the entrance). The guys there said he was lost and most of them usually trek back to Gunma for the less harsh winters. Link to post Share on other sites
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