damian 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Check out the closing scene in this clip at night around the camp fire. That's not normal behaviour anywhere except America and Iraq. So ends my interest in anything to do with TGR movies. What a load of shit. http://www.tetongravity.com/viewer/Clip_TSS_EP08_COLLINS.aspx Link to post Share on other sites
daver 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 yeah, i hate the way tgr always has to play up the stoner image. but spud, your comment? come on mang, there are jerk offs everywhere. and i doubt that is normal behaviour in the places you aforementioned. Link to post Share on other sites
eskimobasecamp 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 personally i didn't really like the kicking the tree part Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 >but spud, your comment? come on mang, there are jerk offs everywhere That's beyond Jerk-off if you are Australian, British, French, German, Italian, Spanish, Swedish, Norwegian, Austrian, Kiwi, Swiss, Japanese..... etc And what's wrong with my comment? I have never imagined that a person would own and travel with a semi-auto pistol, let alone fire it whilst sitting around a back country camp fire for a laugh [at explosive objects in the fire]. Especially when they are out back country skiing. That's not normal behaviour for a non-American westerner like me. I don't agree with it at all. The fact that TGR Movies use it to prompt themselves tells me where to spend my movie money. Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I don't know Seemed pretty funny to me Except for the gun. It was spring though. Maybe they are worried about bears... I like knocking old trees down. The destructive side in me Link to post Share on other sites
samurai 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Can't wait to get to a computer (with the necessary software) to see the clip of 'normal' american behavior shooting a pistol at explosives in a fire. I'm an american with a handful of guns back home. I miss 'em dearly. I miss cleaning 'em, gettin' 'em all shiny-like. I got my first gun when I was twelve, after my safety cert. It was (and still is) a Marlin 30-30C lever for dropping deer. It was my grandfather's--- no idea how much meat it has harvested (maybe 8 deer by my finger) Then I got a 16 guage side-by-side shot gun for grouse and pheasant. Then I got a 12 guage Browning pump for geese. Then got an even better deer rifle, a Browning semi-auto 30-06 with a sick scope. Could probably drop a coin at a hundred meters, have dropped a pepsi can at about 250. That was a long walk after placing it on top of a fence post. Conservationists may get upset to learn I didn't go pick it up later either. It's my land afterall. This one time, at deer-opener, my hunting party lined up on sunday evening, (six of us wide) and all unloaded on a rotten tree to fall it. it fell. Bark flew everywhere. After having our land poached, (found nine gut piles) by an archer- we got skunked. No meat for three families. Blowing up the dead tree blew off some steam. Wouldn't wanna shoot explosives in a fire, though. Nor have I ever heard of it. And I stopped buying TGR when Micah Black made his comment of why extreme skiers need to party, then panning the camera to his watch showing it was 4:20. Carrying a pistol in the backcountry? Heard of bear-security in AK in the spring-time, never saw a bear in my seasons of spring-time BC in Montana... Carried pepper spray, though. I back ya, lay off the TGR, there are many much more professional filming agencies out there that choose to appeal to different niches of skiers. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I hate guns so the drunk gun crap was just stupid. The tree crap it was dead who cares really. I wont boycot TGR but i will say the boys looked like idiots really, but thats what they do so I dont care. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 they looked like a bunch of stupid idiots Dont think Ive ever been that bored in my life. Saw that clip early in the week and thought it was pretty bad though it wont stop me from grabbing a copy of Anamoly. Link to post Share on other sites
ianbc 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 the head cam was super sick. pro shedding ... nature of the beast Link to post Share on other sites
thomas_m 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by db le pu: That's not normal behaviour anywhere except America and Iraq. Come on... It's not 'normal' in America (USA) either. If it was normal, it wouldn't be in that stupid movie because it wouldn't interest the target audience. I'm a US citizen. I meet and interact with quite a few other US citizens every day. As far as I can tell, they are as likely to do something like this as they are to be hit on the head by a meteorite. How many US citizens do you know? How many of them do you think would do something like that? I'm guessing none or a very small minority? Then are the ones who wouldn't do that sort of thing 'abnormal'... No offense intended but thinking that the riders in TGR films is a sampling of 'normal' Americans is silly. Those sorts of generalizations speak to typing before thinking. T. Link to post Share on other sites
Yuki's Passion 1 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 FIRE AWAY! Link to post Share on other sites
spook 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 if it's not another question about niseko, it's a thread dissolving into nationalistic bashing. yaaaaawwwwnnn. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 actually while db was here is 2 best friend were from the US so Ill say that he knows a few. America is 50/50 on guns though now arent they. Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by spook: if it's not another question about niseko, it's a thread dissolving into nationalistic bashing. yaaaaawwwwnnn. I enjoy this one much more I thought it was funny and on reflection I enjoy a good joking when I'm in the mountains. They were just having a few laughs in the BC. Ian was right. That headcam footage was sick. Snow didn't look deep in the second cliff Link to post Share on other sites
AK 77 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 You all sound like my mum! No, worse, you sound like someone's "outraged" aunt Edna, from suburbia, writing in to the sunday newspaper complain about the kids today. I was expecting something really tastless by the time i read all that and then watched it... ... so what? They are pro skiers who jump off cliffs for a living. The video is supposed to portray them, not you, so who cares if they are stoners or drunks - it's not a maternity care video. That said, it doesn't particularly interest me either, but it's not worth getting your granny pants in a twist over. I liked the socks. Link to post Share on other sites
keba 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 So they are dickheads... hands up everyone who was surprised by that They are paid for what they do on their skis, not how they behave around a campfire. Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 how are they dickheads? they aren't flipping off anybody or getting all drunk in a bar Just having some fun while backcountry camping and filming Who here hasn't on a couple occasions thrown fuel into a fire while in the BC just for the fun of it I've had my fair share of white gas explosions Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 i dont do that toque you bc boys are nuts Link to post Share on other sites
AK 77 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 once made a sigg bottle rocket by pouring meths onto a fire - the flame came back up the pouring liquid and with a "whhhhuuummmP" the bottle took off into the trees leaving a line of blue fire hanging in the air for a second. stupid, but awesome (literally, my hand was stilll in the air thinking it had a bottle in it!), but i was only 13 and you learn! full cans of spray deoderant were also fun, as long as you had a big log to hide behind! Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 Hang on, I didn't use the word "normal" correctly. It wasn't a literal inference that it is normal behaviour for Americans. More so that pistol carrying and shooting is extremely unusual behaviour outside of places like America (and, more the benefit of making a point, Iraq). The fact that it is around the campfire in a back country skiing trip is, to me, a totally bizarre and abnormal thing. Owning guns for your hunting is your business. Shooting them at cans on safe land is also your own business. Carrying a pistol on a back country ski trip is scary, but also ones own business.... until TGR Movies decide to use the campfire shooting footage for self promotion. For many an American viewer, it might be regarded as unpalatable behaviour. But I reckon for a non-American viewer (or non-Iraqi) it is totally out of left field. "Like woooooaaah, what the hell!?" kind of stuff If someone did that at a camp fire when I was there, I'd pack my stuff and leave. Toque - its a gun designed for shooting people, and that is not the same as dicking around a camp fire with deodorant can flamethrowers. Its a gun on a promo clip for a major commercial pro skiing movie outfit. Dizzy - if objecting to a gun in that setting is seen as old fashioned "complaining about youth these days" then see my original conjecture that this is becoming normal behaviour. I'm not attacking Americans, I'm objecting to TGR Movie production people manipulating that kind of behaviour and whilst its not my business, I also raise my eyebrow that it is seen as funny or cool by the consumer group that they go for. ps - being a trouble causing Australian, I was firing a few small sky rockets from my hand in the generally direction of some Japanese dudes camping on the beach near us one night in Izu. All the Americans I were with suddenly got super Politically Correct, anal and serious: "dude, that nooot cool". Shook their heads and turned their backs on me. Whilst they reacted like a pathetic bunch of dorks in the face of Australian larrikinism, at least they wouldn't condone gun-play. Link to post Share on other sites
Kumapix 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 i'm with ak on this one. I don't think it's a big deal. pro riders goofing off. Guess you guys haven't seen Jackass in a while Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 Blithering a bit there db... Especially as you're apparently an antisocial firework cowboy. (I once tried to teach an American friend the simple art of hand launching rockets. He was standing there with the thing spraying fire all over his hand saying "What do I do now?" He was brave afterwards pretending it didn't hurt when he had burnt all the skin on his hand.) Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Author Share Posted November 17, 2006 You can all take your closing swings at me, get it out of your system. I'm quite relaxed with being the 'blithering' odd-one-out on this topic. And I don't care to 'convert' anyone either, so no need to act defensively. I've said what I think and note with interest who here thinks fooling around with semi-auto pistols in the back country and then giggling over it on a commercial ski footage is par for the course. Ocean:. Playing with fireworks around the camp fire is an entirely different thing to playing with a pistol (and then commercialising it for the ski-porn watching masses). You know that. I mentioned that experience in Izu because I am honest. I don't strategically structure what I say so as to remove all possible points of manipulation by a debating opponent. If what I say opens up a weakness that can be exploited then so be it. I'm honest. I also mentioned the Izu thing because I wanted to highlight that I personally know Americans who are far for sensible than I am. I wanted to quell the "he's attacking American's" emotion that seemed to be building. I guess the fact that I only own two ski movies, 4 dvds and haven't had a tv in 10 years has lead to my shock at what I saw and confirms that a life isolated from it is a good thing. ps - I only saw Jackass on tv once in a hotel and they didn't play with guns, perhaps I got a boring episode. Link to post Share on other sites
JPchucky 0 Posted November 17, 2006 Share Posted November 17, 2006 I'm with AK/Kuma as well. I thought that shit was funny. Especially the part with him tugging on the tree goin back and forth at like 40MPH. nothing to get all bent outta shape about, so what!! I don't know if it's really "normal" behavior or not but... As a young hoodlum I used to do shit like that all the time. I remember skipping High school once to go ride at the local hill. One of our crew broke his wrist so someone had the idea to go make some drano bombs at one of our houses, after that got boring we went to this other dudes house and made a pipe bomb using black powder from his Dads Muzzeloader. Whipped that shit up and went behind the garage and stuck it in some cinder blocks. We were hoping it would blow the cinder block apart but shiiiiit, that thing blew the whole side of the garage off and part of the garage collapsed on his Dads 67' Mustang. Sucked, his Dad wouldn't ever let us party over there anymore. Link to post Share on other sites
Kumapix 0 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 that's funny motherhucker! I bet you have a good laugh about it now. Link to post Share on other sites
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