damian 0 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 The stuff in the above pictures cant be normal man made snow, unless it was made inside a facility then dumped in place my trucks. Krusty and stanii seem to be the experts, but I don't think you can produce man made snow in nice neat piles like that Why would they dump it there so early, unless it was to support a one-off little run along a path of ice surrounded by grass. SJ3, what have they done with it since you took the pictures. Its going to melt sooner or later. Stanii - I hear that in France there are problems with very slow melting man made snow in spring. Some resorts there are spending huge on snow making for this season. Link to post Share on other sites
Stanii 0 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Quote: but I don't think you can produce man made snow in nice neat piles like that Yes, it's nearly true. The piles on the pics look out a little bit stranger. I guess, that in this case the piles weren't made by snowguns. Nowadays at the market are some "snow"making system, which produce "crushed ice". like Snowbox or IDE snowmaker. Whit this sytem you are able to make "snow" at very high temperatures. Example the Snowbox could produce snow till +35 C. This crushed ice make an ideal base at the slopes for the real (natural) snow, or even for the man-made snow. But skiing only at crushed ice is not a real thing. It's more like springsnow, wetsnow (so no pow) More information from the IDE Snowmaker here: http://www.ide-snowmaker.com/ to France: in France it's allowed to mix into the water chemicals/bacterias. That's why the melting is more langer, than in Austria. And this fact is also a reason, why some french slopes are during the summer brown and not green with flowers etc. After the end of the winterseason some austrian resorts make their slopes (which were snowed with snowguns during the winter) into brown/black. They call this produce "Düngen" (=fertilize). Due the color of this substratum the albedo will be much more lower, so this browny ground pick up much more energy from the sunshine, and this occures a rapid snowmelting. Link to post Share on other sites
Markie 0 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Db, I don't think that's for a one day thing. Naeba always makes snow like that to get a line running in the season as soon as possible and they do get some avid keenies going up there to do that one little stretch. Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan.Com#3 0 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 Quote: Why would they dump it there so early, unless it was to support a one-off little run along a path of ice surrounded by grass. That's exactly what it is for, db. It will become a 900 meter run that they open in just over 2 weeks that's about 20 meters (?) wide (and surrounded by grass). It sure isn't natural snow, it comes from those machines they have dotted along the run. The mounds are getting bigger as the days go by. Link to post Share on other sites
the snowboarding vicar 1 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 I think a small run like that would frustrate me a lot. Surely it's best to wait for real snow. Link to post Share on other sites
jgraves 0 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Saw the first pictures of people on such a pre-season run here on the tele this evening. Link to post Share on other sites
mina2 6 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Marunuma in Gunma opened today they reckon 50cm on the Yellow Course. Very short and narrow of course. Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Moderator SnowJapan.Com#4 5 Posted November 18, 2006 SnowJapan Moderator Share Posted November 18, 2006 First runs of the season at Naeba: http://www.snowjapan.com/e/daily/naeba-now.php Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Thanks for those, cool. The mushroom soup sounds more appealing than the skiing looks! Link to post Share on other sites
frannyo 2 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Let's skiing! on second thoughts Let's waiting! Link to post Share on other sites
Markie 0 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 I'm surprised there's still so much green around. Much of that big dump earlier melted so fast? Link to post Share on other sites
Kumapix 0 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 last time I checked the weather we had a high 18 degrees sunny skies forecast for most of next week Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Moderator SnowJapan.Com#4 5 Posted November 19, 2006 SnowJapan Moderator Share Posted November 19, 2006 Yes it went pretty quickly. Glad we could get the photos in the day after the snow falls last week: http://www.snowjapan.com/e/insider/photo_section.php?userid=NaebaNow&userGallery=75 Almost all of it has melted from the lower slopes of Naeba since then, you can get a good idea on the above photos. From the town area of Yuzawa it's difficult to see any snow now - just on the distant mountaintops. None on Yuzawa Kogen. We'll be updating Yuzawa Now and Naeba Now most days now in the run up to the season. http://www.snowjapan.com/e/daily/yuzawa-now.php http://www.snowjapan.com/e/daily/naeba-now.php It does look like next week might be warmer though. Let's hope that changes. Still early yet though. Link to post Share on other sites
Markie 0 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Well, judging from what people are wearing in the above pic, it can't be that warm. I remember skiing in Happo this Easter without gloves and with only my T-shirt and the temperature was in the teens then. Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Moderator SnowJapan.Com#4 5 Posted November 19, 2006 SnowJapan Moderator Share Posted November 19, 2006 Not warm, but not really cold either - I'm not sure that a big heavy coat is quite necessary There was a bit of rain last week after the snow too so a fair bit was washed away. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Not cold the last few days really - just grey and dull. Started to rain as well. Link to post Share on other sites
XilR8 0 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Well, it's been raining solid in Tokyo pretty much all day. Any of that translate into snow higher up? Link to post Share on other sites
Hokkaidough 4 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Looks like generally less snow up there now. Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Moderator SnowJapan.Com#4 5 Posted November 24, 2006 SnowJapan Moderator Share Posted November 24, 2006 Not much, but Kagura will be opening tomorrow. Very small area, I will definitely be waiting: http://www.snowjapan.com/e/daily/naeba-now.php Link to post Share on other sites
panhead_pete 27 Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 If nothging else its more then we have in Perth at the moment and if it was up the road I'd be hitting it. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I think it's all gone now. (Apart from whats on the open course). Link to post Share on other sites
HighlyTrainedNovaTeacher 2 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 My friend went - said it was crap. I did warn him..... Link to post Share on other sites
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