WantToSki 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by daver: well the deal is that you get a guarunteed vertical and afterwards you must pay for all subsequent rides up. these guys are pushing the rides up a lot, and get angry when the group they are in can't keep up and don't continue going up. you are right everybody pays a lot, and these guys do choose to be in the top group. i think that they get angry when people over judge their ability and put themselves in a group that they can't keep up with. but i am not a guide, i am just relying the venting sessions that my friends, who are guides, usually have when they have a chance. as for your trip, rank yourself low. you will enjoy yourself better if you are at the front of the pack, rather than at the back. i would also look into snowcat opperations as well. they are usually a lot cheaper, and unless you have a perfect day, you will be in the exact same terrian as a heli opperation. heli trips actually rarely get above tree line. any recommendations for these snowcat operations (never heard them before)? thanks!! Link to post Share on other sites
WantToSki 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by incompetentboob: A heli ski op in NZ that didn't make it past the tree line would be in trouble seeing as the tree line and the snowline are generally the same. pardon my ignorance - but what is a "treeline," and a "snowline"...? thanks!! Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Going up the mountain, the treeline is where the trees stop, and the snowline is where the snow starts. Link to post Share on other sites
daver 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 don't know much about NZ so i can't be of much actual technical assistance in this field. good point about treeline in NZ though. Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by soubriquet: Going up the mountain, the treeline is where the trees stop, and the snowline is where the snow starts. I was hoping somebody would answer this with a bit of a smart ass response I couldn't think of anything at the time and still can't Link to post Share on other sites
Markie 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Actually, I always thought that the treeline and snowline is what soubriquet said. But that would contradict what incompetentboob said about the two basically being the same. I thought that the snowline was much farther down than the treeline. Can someone shed some light on this? Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 My understanding Markie, is that the treeline is controlled by the climate, and the snowline by the weather. I think what incompetentboob means is that in NZ, the skiable snow is found pretty much at and above the treeline. That fits with my memory of skiing at Mt Hutt, no trees, but I wasn't paying attention and may be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
sava 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 There is very little NZ skiing that is below the tree line. The main factor contributing to the snow is the height as opposed to generally cold weather - there will be a couple of days a year where there there is snow to sea level, but nothing like somewhere such as Japan. Link to post Share on other sites
ncorrenti 0 Posted May 24, 2006 Share Posted May 24, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by eskimobasecamp: Who else is goin down south this summer???? Anyone from SJ? I'm hitting up the Remarks in early August also... maybe Cardrona too, if we end up getting a hire car. There was frost on my car windshield this morning. In Brisbane!!! Getting excited. Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 Quote: Originally posted by soubriquet: My understanding Markie, is that the treeline is controlled by the climate, and the snowline by the weather. If we're are really going to get into it I'd say treeline is more controlled by latitude Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 In the sense that latitude is a control on climate, sure thing. Link to post Share on other sites
eskimobasecamp 0 Posted May 25, 2006 Share Posted May 25, 2006 wow someone just post a picture, it will all become so clear to those who don't know their treeline from their snowline OR let's just talk about the lines that really matter Link to post Share on other sites
alferg 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 it certainly looks like NZ is well & truly ready for their official opening dates this season from www.snow.co.nz It will be one of the best openings ever at Mt Hutt with snowmaking and natural falls creating excellent early season coverage. (23/05/06) Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Looks very nice Link to post Share on other sites
eskimobasecamp 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 WOW can't wait Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Mt Hutt It's above the treeline. Link to post Share on other sites
brit-gob 9 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 I want to be there. Link to post Share on other sites
eskimobasecamp 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 My bro is landing there tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites
eskimobasecamp 0 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Events in Wanaka this season - http://www.natives.co.uk/do/ecco.py/view_item?listid=9&listcatid=39&listitemid=1582& Link to post Share on other sites
cheeseman 1 Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Any updates people? I'd be interested to know how the resorts down there cater to all the cheesefans out there. Link to post Share on other sites
eskimobasecamp 0 Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 haha i'll ask my brother about how the quality and selection of cheese in nz compares to that of the french alps... where he also lived for 6 months (Tignes)............. and you know the answer will be GO TO FRANCE CHEESE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
maoriboy 0 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 There are a number of very good cheeses her CheeseMan...and yeah I cant wait for the season to start here. got my gear all ready for at least a few weeks of snowboarding Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Er.... hows the snow going on down there now? Link to post Share on other sites
ShinyDiscoBall 2 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 It must be snowing they haven't updated us in a few... Link to post Share on other sites
TJ OZ 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 The season opens here in OZ this weekend. The New South wales resorts have a little bit of snow and will probably have a couple of lifts open. The Victorian resorts have nothing yet. June is usually pretty bad for snow and the season peaks in August. We are also expecting some snow over the weekend. The King Island double Brie is a great Australian cheese. I hope the Cheesefamily have a chance to taste it one day. Link to post Share on other sites
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