muikabochi 208 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 I was taking a walk near where I live on a country road, there's still about 1-1.5 meters of snow on the rice fields. Except one. Well, half of one. For some reason, there's no snow on about half of one of the rice fields. It looks really strange and I can't work out why just that part has melted. I'll have to take a photo. Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites
Kumapix 0 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 maybe somebody was doing beacon practice and forgot to turn the beacon on. They then had to dig up half the field to find it Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 It can be done by spreading something dark like powdered charcoal on the field. The farmer may want that area to put up a greenhouse so he can get his rice sprouts going. Link to post Share on other sites
gamera 0 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Hummm maybe some gas or high temperture comes out? #1.Muikabochi, are there some Zazensou there? They run a temperture and melt snow by themselves. But not whole winter..... #2. How about kun-tan (smoked rice shell ) ? Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 Thanks. I'm really not sure, I didn't see anything on the rice field at all - it just looked clear. I'll try and take a pic this week. Link to post Share on other sites
Bonio 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Maybe alot of people have been "writing their names in the snow" in that particular spot Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 Here's some pics Link to post Share on other sites
blinkin'ek 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I don't have an answer for you, muikabochi, but I like that first pic there. Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 That's pretty much what I saw yesterday when I was out, some fields with open patches. My guess is that that relatively warm canal water is leaking in. Once a hole has opened, sunlight is warming the water, and which then conducts the heat under the snow pack. Pure speculation. Link to post Share on other sites
snobee 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I think what you have here is a clear example of the ever increasing problem of - Snow Theft. In the darkest hours of the night they come with their loaders and trucks, select only the best prime bits, cut it like cake and they're gone. Rumour has it that some of the resorts out west here are involved in a dramatic attempt to stretch the season with some high quality pack. Personally I think they're selling it on the black market as bottled miracle snow-aqua. Link to post Share on other sites
bushpig 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 In Aus I have seen fields on a cold night when steam is rising from only certain sections of the ground. Very eerie. I was told by the local farmers that there are concentrations of minerals/chemicals which produce gases/steam more than normal. Probably very much like peat bogs?? Anyway, maybe farmers have used a certain fertilizer or chemical in the fields in question that are having the same effect. Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 You've sprung me, snobee. If you want a truck load of snow, I can arrange it, very cheap. Plus transport costs. Link to post Share on other sites
joshnii 2 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 At least you got all that, none up here. How much per m? Link to post Share on other sites
snobee 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Sounds the go Sobri. I'll take a full load. Could you just hold onto it until August and then dump it in my front yard. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 haha. not sure there would be too much demand for snow here, most people seem to want to see the last of it. Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Partner reports that clearing snow from her carpark cost Y 270,000 last winter. 70K was for 1 day's trucking and dumping in the river. You're right about the peat bog, Bushpig. With the soils saturated like that, there will be anaerobic decomposition, sulphate reduction and fermentation going on. The products will include methane, H2S and CO2. I think the localised melting most likely to result from being heated by groundwater, or canal water leaking in. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted March 22, 2006 Author Share Posted March 22, 2006 270000 yen? What does that include soubriquet? water and the like? Link to post Share on other sites
soubriquet 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 200,000 is for the loader to come after every fall, and push it into the snow storage area. We were overwhelmed though, and had to have two half-days getting it dumped. The clear area of carpark is about 200m2. Her factory roof is about 300m2, and we must have put in about 2 hours per day for a month to keep that clear. We were going uphill from the roof to the snow pile. Link to post Share on other sites
thefunkydrummer 0 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I've seen farmers clearing their fields of snow - presumably because they want to start planting crops a.s.a.p. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 That's a rather bizarre phenomenon. muikabochi, you should make it your assignment to find the farmer in question and ask them what is going on with their field (finding a farmer in Japan can be almost as hard as finding a policeman). Farmers are used to being asked daft questions by strangers and ignoramuses - it happens all the time on Japanese TV. Link to post Share on other sites
snobee 0 Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 I showed those pix to a knowledgable friend last night and he thought all of the above was possible - but the likely cause was Snow Lines. Like the ubiquitous Crop Circles of England and elsewhere, there has been an emergence of Snow Lines in various places across the planet. It is believed that they are caused by oblong shaped space craft (as opposed to the saucer variety responsinle for crop circles). He suggested a few confirming checks: 1 - the presence of a waxy, sooty substance in the mud - low-tech craft after burner residue 2 - your watch spins wildly when standing in the middle of such spaces - hi-tech ionization refracting craft 3 - your voice turns gravelly - means they are amogst us 4 - go to any local cobini or such and look for Tom Cruise / John Travolta look alikes speaking deeply such expressions as My - name - is - Mr - Jones. I - like - icecream. One - bowl - of - ramen - hold - the - egg. Approach with caution. Good Luck. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted March 23, 2006 Author Share Posted March 23, 2006 I will try to find a farmer to ask. Link to post Share on other sites
1 4 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Amazed that there is still so much snow around. The photos you have don't look like it is has been done like that by a farmer. Tell us what you find out. Link to post Share on other sites
gamera 0 Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Ah, muikabochi I imagined much smaller one. Maybe there's some spring water canels around? Link to post Share on other sites
kkk 7 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Yeah I was imagining a small area as well that is pretty weird. Link to post Share on other sites
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