grungy-gonads 54 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 How much does it add on to the cost of a paif of ski boots to get that done? Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I just bought new liners cause mine were packed out. 25,000 for heat mouldable liners. That's all I could get. But some of the new boots come with the mouldable liners included Link to post Share on other sites
js 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Cost me about $1,000 in Oz (83,700 Yen) to get the new custom boots with injected foam liners. Sounds a lot (is a lot!), but the comfort and after sales support is worth every cent. Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Other than being lighter I couldn't tell to much difference from my old liners I think the most important thing is custom footbeds which I have never tried Link to post Share on other sites
js 0 Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Only need footbeds if your arches are suspect, etc. The fitting bloke offered them, but said I didn't really need 'em - at an extra $250 I decided the initial $1k for the boots to be an adequate outlay! Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 1k that is crazy. I just have my older footbeds remolded. Get your foot beds posted. If they are posted you can use the same footbeds forever. Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 That is a lot of money Is that typical for gear in the southern hemisphere? Link to post Share on other sites
sunrise 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 What's 'posted' FT? Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 adding flat layers to the bottom of your footbed so that the footbed lies flat and motionless in your shoe or boot. get your footbed posted trust me on this. ill take a pic and show what it looks like on the weekend. Link to post Share on other sites
baba 0 Posted July 11, 2005 Share Posted July 11, 2005 Since I staerted skiing I mostly had the Rossignol goods. It is not rule, but I like them generally. Also once I tried Fishcer. I did not like Salamon when try it. Link to post Share on other sites
js 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by Toque: That is a lot of money Is that typical for gear in the southern hemisphere? Yeah, pretty much so. If specialised equipment is imported it is very expensive compared to O/S - a captive market situation I suppose. Much of the Euro gear doesn't cope well with our terrain and climate anyway. However, some industries have started to come online in the last ten years, making gear which tends to be equal to or slightly cheaper in price but yards ahead in quality e.g. abseiling gear, sleeping bags, tents, some clothing, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
marnix 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Quote: Originally posted by SubZero: Much of the Euro gear doesn't cope well with our terrain and climate anyway. What make your terrain and climate so different that you need special OZ/NZ material? Link to post Share on other sites
mattlucas 0 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Well you know just like Japanese snow is different... In Oz they have to have special deflectors on the skis to push the Kangeroos out of the way. Link to post Share on other sites
sunrise 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 No, no, you're wrong there, those are for the snow gums, the Aussie crows and all the yobbos Link to post Share on other sites
markramina 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 wow almost all of you must have been talking about skiing because the only brands i recognized were oakley smith rossignol and burton i look at whatever looks like the highest performance for a reasonable price and buy new stuff leftover fro mthe previous season so it is super discounted (about 40%) Rome snowboard K2 bindings Salomon boots i bought that whole set up for around 700 USD thats like 77,700 yen all top of the line stuff is that less than it would cost in japan ? Link to post Share on other sites
js 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Unlike some parts of the snow world, Oz doesn’t have pine trees or similar soft foliage plants in the Alps. Nor are there tall deciduous trees like Aspens, etc. Here are a few pics of typical snow gums – beautiful trees (colours and distorted shapes) but complete bastards to ski at speed through because non-robust clothing tends to get ripped to shreds and getting impaled is a real concern – those smaller branches aren’t soft enough to flick away like pines either. http://rsc.anu.edu.au/~evans/snow_gum_gallery.htm http://www.ernmphotography.com/Pages/Bark/Bark1/pages/914_2.html (Sideline for the techies: these specimens would be well over 1k old – they grow from lignotubers so are virtually immortal.) More often than not, snow tends to be wetter and conditions generally humid, so many membrane type fabrics don’t really work that well – generally just keeps the wind and water out, but usually get drenched from perspiration. So, that’s why clothing with tough outer fabrics, a lot of ventilation options, and decent thermal wear is needed. Most imported garments just don’t measure up in all these regards - NZ being the notable exception because they produce some excellent quality and durable gear. As for summer B/C equip, most of the best bushwalking/canyoning country is off track – can’t really describe the extent of the scrub in Oz, it seems ‘the great spirit’ decided to place only plants capable of inflicting injury via thorns and irritants on this continent - on a ridge above the tree line in summer it can be beautiful, but erroneously drop into one of the creeks and it’ll be a wall of horrendous scrub bashing = canvas gaiters, canvas rucksack, etc. Yes, unfortunately crows in our Alps are a problem, but their forlorn call is offset by the myriad of parrots, wrens, etc and the intermittent thud of ‘Roos or the occasional Emu – they not just in our backyards and on the city streets ya know. Each country has its peculiarities, those listed above are some of ours. In the end - it's all good. Link to post Share on other sites
sunrise 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Nice pics, they're so lovely covered with snow. I forgot to mention black cockatoos as well. You say the crows are a problem? I didn't know that. They're natives as far as I know. Link to post Share on other sites
sava 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Toque: I paid about $350 for my boots (salomon performa 8). I have an orthotic anyhow so I didn't/couldn't have custom footbeds Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 orthotics hurt my feet, but some people really do need them. Thank god I dont. Link to post Share on other sites
window-cleaner 0 Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 I don't really stick with one brand - every time I buy I look at what's available and go from there. Link to post Share on other sites
daver 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 volkl skiis. i can't see myself changing any time soon. well my touring set up is not really suited well for expeditions, CMH explosivs with fritschi bindings. heavy! better built for resort/day trippin. so maybe a nice light pair for extended trips. that cancels out the volkl. boots, uh, as long as they fit who cares. make friends with a boot fitter. the cost of the custom fitting is solved. footbeds, yes. BIG YES. if you intend to spend more then 50 days a year in your boots i can't imagine otherwise. if you get your liner fitted, why would you waste all that money and time by not investing in the footbeds as well? the rest, make friends with reps, take what ever they are giving away at the time. Link to post Share on other sites
sava 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 heh nobody gives me free skis Link to post Share on other sites
sakebomb 0 Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 sava, I could give you some free skis but your chances of leaving here would be reduced . Link to post Share on other sites
snowboard 0 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 You could give them to me instead. Always been slightly curious about skiing..... Link to post Share on other sites
Oyuki kigan 0 Posted July 19, 2005 Share Posted July 19, 2005 Airblaster! Well no, not really. I don't have anything yet, but they are kinda wacky and are trying to address the sweatshop labour issue (like MEC and Arc'teryx in canada) by making stuff in the US. Not perfect maybe, but they are trying. Check out the madness at www.myairblaster.com And i'm gonna try to avoid burton until they get their shit together. Link to post Share on other sites
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