hutch 0 Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 Anyone else out there have FATS or even MID-FATS? Got Atomic Deep Powder 130mm (tip to tail)180cm wondering if there are any other deep POW freaks out there? Do you have fat ski brakes? Did you also have trouble finding somewhere to set your binding? How do you find they ride? Link to post Share on other sites
danz 0 Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 hey hutch... I once demoed the Rossi Bandit XX (maybe last year)...I think those are in the mid-fat range...didn't have much pow to ride at the time, so can't comment on how they handle in those conditions... on the rest of the mountain, i found them very unresponsive...couldn't find any radius that really worked for those skiis...had more fun on the salamon xscreams (are those mid-fats too??)... for now i'm still riding my sl skiis... danz Link to post Share on other sites
hutch 0 Posted January 17, 2002 Author Share Posted January 17, 2002 Danz yeah dude xcreams rule....that's my first pair right now.....good all mt ski.... from the cordorouy to the deep POW where are you at? peacethruPOW Link to post Share on other sites
danz 0 Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 yo... in tsukuba now, but moving to kasiwa (chiba-ken) next month... how bout you? heading to nozawa this weekend...doin my yuki-kami-sama prayers... danz Link to post Share on other sites
hutch 0 Posted January 17, 2002 Author Share Posted January 17, 2002 on the aomori iwate border ski Hakkoda POW here until the summer then off following the POW round the world.....home town is in BC where's home? every seen anyone on FATS?? If you can keep up with snowboarders in POW on your regular shaped you're likely to FLY on the FATS. NAC (Niseko Adventure Centre) has some of the same Atomic Deep Powder skis on serious sale at only 2 man: http://www.nac-web.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
danz 0 Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 yo... before japan spent 6yrs in boston... had the pleasure of skiing the finest blue ice in the world around New Englan ...if it snowed like 10cm, that would be a good powder day...man made snow grows on you, I already miss it in a wierd twisted way... but...love the pow...need the pow...can't get enough of the pow...japan has been good to me so far (7 days on snow, 4 of them pow pow days) hey...could you point me to a more specific link about those atomics?? i couldn't find it on the website...very interesting... danz ------------------ pray for snow Link to post Share on other sites
mogski 0 Posted January 17, 2002 Share Posted January 17, 2002 Salomon PocketRocket's 185cm - FAT as fat can be! So twin tipped that it would be pretty hard to tell the front from the back if it weren't for the ever so kind arrow pointing up. Haven't had the chance to try 'em in powder yet, but will report after Hokkaido trip in Feb. Pretty sweet on the hard stuff though. Let the snow fall! Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted January 18, 2002 Share Posted January 18, 2002 Sounds like what you boys is a'hankerin' after is a ... snowboard. Them's good'n fat, and floats in powder. Someone'll show you which is the front end too if you finally come to your senses. Link to post Share on other sites
mogski 0 Posted January 18, 2002 Share Posted January 18, 2002 Tubby or not tubby, FAT is the question. Link to post Share on other sites
hutch 0 Posted January 21, 2002 Author Share Posted January 21, 2002 Snowboarders actually reading this topic?....what's going on??? Tell me those that TURNED years back from the toothpix to the toungedepressor aren't just a little interested in riding FATS.....these things are FAT FAT FAT.....even puts the pocket rockets to shame (FYI Hakkoda's RENTALS this year are the pocket rocket.....tells you a bit 'bout the mt eh?) ..... so just how fat do boards get? Think you could handle two FAT edges instead of one? Link to post Share on other sites
hutch 0 Posted January 21, 2002 Author Share Posted January 21, 2002 Snowboarders actually reading this topic?....what's going on??? Tell me those that TURNED years back from the toothpix to the toungedepressor aren't just a little interested in riding FATS.....these things are FAT FAT FAT.....even puts the pocket rockets to shame (FYI Hakkoda's RENTALS this year are the pocket rocket.....tells you a bit 'bout the mt eh?) ..... so just how fat do boards get? Think you could handle two FAT edges instead of one? Link to post Share on other sites
talisker 0 Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 I ride Dynastar 4x4 special editions fat as flippty! went of the back bowl to Annupuri yesterday awesome! No more getting left behind! Link to post Share on other sites
hutch 0 Posted January 21, 2002 Author Share Posted January 21, 2002 Anyone seen anywhere selling/showboating the new Volants??? Shane McConkey's making..... the Spatula (sp?) fat at the tip....even fatter at the centre and think at the tail. Much like a pair of water skis......taking the weight where you need it most to float. I heard they'd be out for next season ......as per the pic and expl in POWDER at couple of months ago. Link to post Share on other sites
danz 0 Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 so i wanna know more about these fatties... are they only good in the pow?? what happens when you take them on hard-pack, cordoried, ice, crud... what am i getting at...are fatties as good as having an all mtn. ski?? or are they a 1 dimensional tool... ski equip is EXPENSIVE!! gotta choose wisely... thanks... danz ------------------ pray for snow Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 hutch, we have to keep an eye on what the enemy is up to. It looks like you're planning some incursions into boarder territory with those fat skis. Be warned though, my powder trails at Nozzle are protected with Claymores. I see danz in hiz pants is hankering after the powder skis too, but the ski stuff is all just too costly like weez boardaz iz long bin sayin. Personally, I have a bunch of boards for whatever kind of riding takes me fancy... Well, as you were. One of us fat board people will be checking in on yous from time to time... Link to post Share on other sites
danz 0 Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 how much does a new high-end board w/bindings cost anyway?? I can't imagine its that much cheaper than a new ski-rig... danz ------------------ pray for snow Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 danz, you could pay maybe 50,000 yen for a board and the same again for boots/bindings. But you'd be the biggest sucker if you did. There are sales on all the time, and you don't NEED high-end kit. You can get sorted out with the basics for around 60,000 yen or less - and it still works fine. Link to post Share on other sites
danz 0 Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 so is there no real distinction between high-end boarding equipment and mid-range... in skiing, its like the difference between driving a Ferrari v. a Pinto...pressuring the ski is like stepping on the gas pedal... definetly performance affects cost... how bout for boarding? Link to post Share on other sites
hutch 0 Posted January 22, 2002 Author Share Posted January 22, 2002 The Salomon Xcreams (men's) are selling for about $600 right now at backcountry.com quite possibly the best all-mt ski of all time....and most defintely the best selling ski in history. decent salamon titanium 900+ series bindings can be had at about $200 ....and that's top of the line You can find cheap FATS at about $200-$300....as they are seriously a novelty item for deep POW dayz.....don't want to ride them on crud. Worth having for those amazing deep days of 30cm+ Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 the deal is the same for skis or snowboards. A high end snowboard (just bought a burton cascade) gives an amazing ride compared to lesser models. The cascade, great in powder, but still holds its own on hardpack, crud, cordouroy. For unpredictable mixed conditions, hard to beat, unlike cheaper models. Just like skis, really. As for the price, it cost more with a 30% discount than the aforementioned skis. If you check out the stores, skis and snowboards cover the same price range. Ocean11, have you ever tried skiing, fats, or telemarking? Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 miteyak, as I've said on another thread, two planks never appealed to me, so I stayed away from winter sports until last year. Never tried skiing. Hell, it might even be fun. I'd like to try fun skis, as one of the big turn-offs of skiing is having to hold poles. But I bought an Airwalk Champ for about 30,000 yen (more than half of which was shipping!), and all of what you say about your Burton applies. Unless we swapped boards, we don't know if it applies more to yours than it does to mine. I imagine that above a certain price point, you're going to get something that works, and having forked out the money, you're not going to let yourself be too dissatisfied. Of course, I'd like to ride a few top-end boards to test out what is only a theory. Link to post Share on other sites
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