montoya 0 Posted February 18, 2002 Share Posted February 18, 2002 Man, I was up to waist-deep pow at Kagura and my board just wasn't cutting it. Looks like time for a real powder stick. What do ya'll recommend? Winterstick Swallowtail or Burton Fish? Link to post Share on other sites
barok 0 Posted February 18, 2002 Share Posted February 18, 2002 Is the Fish even out yet ? I've never ridden either, but I'd get either that Winterstick or a lib-tech longboard. I think it's lib-tech ? Either them or gnu. Arbor snowboards makes a pretty tight series of longboards as well. their website is farked for some reason though, so you have to search retailers. Link to post Share on other sites
ivo 0 Posted February 18, 2002 Share Posted February 18, 2002 almost every brand builts longboards! my favorite is the "TANKER" from "RADICAL AIRLINES" they built now tankers with a length of 2 meters! might be a little too long for tree runs. check out www.rad-air.com Link to post Share on other sites
indosnm 0 Posted February 18, 2002 Share Posted February 18, 2002 I use a Burton FLOATER 67', seems to do the job damn well for me. and a 64' if its not so deep. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted February 18, 2002 Share Posted February 18, 2002 montoya, whatcha riding now? Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted February 18, 2002 Share Posted February 18, 2002 The Fish is only 156, so if you like hiking the backcountry it should be a lot easier to carry that something that's 180 or thereabouts. Should be cool turning in the trees too. I saw a Japan page that had a 86000 price tag on the Fish, but don't remember if that's just the RRP. The info was just a translation of the stuff on the Burton page. Link to post Share on other sites
montoya 0 Posted February 19, 2002 Author Share Posted February 19, 2002 Quote: Originally posted by Ocean11: montoya, whatcha riding now? um, sims montoya 156. I did see the Burton Fish at a Minami in Jinbocho today. it looked pretty cool, but upon closer inspection, I had a feeling somebody at the shop had taken it for a test-ride... 86000 price tag. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 19, 2002 Share Posted February 19, 2002 Hi, I ride an Oxbow backcountry and have been very happy with it in Niseko. It has a pintail shape which helps a bit with keeping the nose up. Quite a few of the locals are riding Gentem sticks (www.gentemstick.com) made by Taro Tamai. I tried one of these last year and it rips. Heaps of rocker and nose lift means you don't have to push on the tail, it has a superfast base and floats like a butterfly. They now have a double pin tail shape too. check it out, the major downer is the price. cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted February 19, 2002 Share Posted February 19, 2002 Got last seasons Burton Cascade 168 in the sales before christmas. Great powder board that performs well in crud and mixed conditions. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted February 19, 2002 Share Posted February 19, 2002 Who are these people that can afford 'powder boards'? What, you fork out nearly 90,000 yen on a board for riding in powder? Where? Why? Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted February 19, 2002 Share Posted February 19, 2002 Yo Ocean 160,000 for the Gentem Swallowtail. If you think that sounds expensive, just think about what some people spend on cars that they hardly get to drive. Your local at Niseko may well use his powder board more than your average young bloke in Tokyo uses the car he bought on credit thinking it would help him land a nice chick. As an aside, limited praise to Minami if the staff actually try out the boards they're selling. All too often in Japan the advice you get off shop assistants is just a simplification of what's written on the sticker on the board. I think it's worth paying more for good service. Minus points if they're trying to sell one they've ridden as new. With a minor board like the Fish or the Burton split boards, I don't think many are going to come to Japan through the grey channels, so you'll just have to pay Burton Japan's prices or hop on a plane to LA. You could save up to half the airfare on a board alone. Throw in some bindings and other gear and you can convince yourself that the trip has paid for itself. You're only young once ! I say buy the board ! Link to post Share on other sites
indosnm 0 Posted February 19, 2002 Share Posted February 19, 2002 Ocean 11, Luckily enough I am not forking out for powder boards! Mine was given to me from the dealer as its a hard board to sell here due to the width and size. also lucked a 164 too. trying to scam a 58 but much harder as they are better sellers! when its free you can't knock it back! It still hasn't graced the slopes of Niseko but.. Link to post Share on other sites
Ocean11 0 Posted February 19, 2002 Share Posted February 19, 2002 Gotta love the free stuff!! My big board eats up the powder, so I'll not be looking for some fishy Burton board. Link to post Share on other sites
miteyak 0 Posted February 19, 2002 Share Posted February 19, 2002 My Cascade came in at 56000, and it's fun to ride on the hard stuff too. I only have a powder board, disregarding my cheapo I learnt on. Link to post Share on other sites
IM 0 Posted February 19, 2002 Share Posted February 19, 2002 Actually, Gentem stick is NOT a swallow tail, it's a Double Pin Tail (DPT). But if you are really into powder, get Gentem TT (short for Tamai Taro, some say Takaku Tomoki). It has no camber, so not ridable on groomers but great on powder. Others are Burton cascade, Fish, K2Eldorado. But my view is none beats the TT. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 20, 2002 Share Posted February 20, 2002 Ocean11, living in Hokkaido, a powder board is all you need/want. (Unless you'd rather ride an icy pipe than 30cm of fresh pow). I picked mine up for 38,000. I've seen old model(brand new) eldorados for as little as 29,000 and burton supermodels for 40,000. On the Gentem, the first day I rode it I thought it was amazing, the second day though, I realised that it didn't feel as good as my board in certain situations and I'd be better sticking with what I have. Nipps in Niseko let you demo the Gentem, try one and see if you like it. cheers. Link to post Share on other sites
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