pie-eater 207 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I'm really pleased to see that lots of skijo seem to be increasing the prices of their lift ticket prices, even though it's only usually by around a few hundred yen or so. Hopefully the price of curry-rice and ramen will also increase. And beer too. One would also hope that the rises will continue next year, with the further increase in consumption tax and everything else getting more expensive. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted October 17, 2014 Author Share Posted October 17, 2014 No! If it's supporting Abenomics, I'm all for it as I'm sure other fellow Abenomics fans are. Luckily, all the price increases are balanced out by all our salaries here in Japan going up considerably. Again, thanks to Abenomics. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 I'm amazed any of them having bothered telling anyone anything about winter yet. They should wait until December at least. Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 The prices have gone up because of the tax increase, no? Personally, I hope that inflation thingy shows up soon and really takes off! I certainly wouldn't mind paying more for the same old thing... in fact, we should pay more for less (like lifts that stop half way up the hill or something) Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 in fact, we should pay more for less (like lifts that stop half way up the hill or something) I'd pay extra just to be able to hike up from the bottom. Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Admin SnowJapan 178 Posted October 17, 2014 SnowJapan Admin Share Posted October 17, 2014 It's crazy how many skijo haven't even updated their own info online at this stage of the year and probably won't for a while yet. Though having gone through this every year for quite a few years, I suppose I shouldn't be surprised! Link to post Share on other sites
sapporo 8 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Rusutsu has introduced a new *IC Chip card* system from this season, with a returnable deposit of ¥500 for the card. A day lift pass is ¥5,500 Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 The prices have gone up because of the tax increase, no? Tax increase plus also the rising cost of... everything else needed to run the places. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Rusutsu has introduced a new *IC Chip card* system from this season, with a returnable deposit of ¥500 for the card. A day lift pass is ¥5,500 Yeah, but Teine hasn't…….so if you've bought a K-winter pass through Teine, you'll get the old laminated style season card, then when you go to Rusutsu for the first time, they'll give you a day IC pass and take your laminated pass. When you return your day IC card at the end of the day, they will return your old style pass and give you a new season long IC card that you can use when you go to Rusutsu. Link to post Share on other sites
sapporo 8 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Sounds good! ...but Rusutsu is pretty sh*t though and should be avoided, for guaranteed knee deep powder and lots of 'gerende Magic' then one should look no further than Niseko on the island of Japan. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MagSeven 40 Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Sounds good! ...but Rusutsu is pretty sh*t though and should be avoided, for guaranteed knee deep powder and lots of 'gerende Magic' then one should look no further than Niseko on the island of Japan. Very true. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Can't blame them for it. Now they just need to get rid of the silly "children for free" stuff that was going on before. I see a few places pulling the reigns back on that. Asking a nominal fee for them is much more sensible. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 A lot of the discounting is silly to be honest. Lets grab a bigger piece of the shrinking pie but make it worth less at the same time. It would make more sense to make the experience better, while specifically targeting discounts only at the price-sensitive people who do exist. Anyone with a newish car, 15000 yen Oakley goggles, an 80000 yen Norrona jacket, a 120,000 yen fat skis/Dukes combo can afford to pay for lift tickets, even if they don't want to. Link to post Share on other sites
bivy_out 0 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Couple of hundred yen increase per year for lift passes won't surprise me but seems the Hokkaido resort liner bus tickets are up by abt 1000yen from last year (!). Did anyone see this huge hike coming? Wonder if Goodsports ski lift + coach packages will ever be as good value as before... Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 What resort liners? Where are you seeing the info, I hadn't seen any up till now Link to post Share on other sites
hellyer 216 Posted October 20, 2014 Share Posted October 20, 2014 Lift ticket prices increase - damn. The nerve of them. My old farts day pass will probably go right up to Y3000. Link to post Share on other sites
North Shore 0 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Can't blame them for it. Now they just need to get rid of the silly "children for free" stuff that was going on before. I see a few places pulling the reigns back on that. Asking a nominal fee for them is much more sensible. Perhaps children to 12 is a little excessive, but say, 10 and under? I don't mind paying for a full day pass for myself, cos I can go and rip it up, but when I've got to pay that, plus pay for my 6 year-old, who's good for one, maybe two, runs, a hot chocolate inside, and then one more run, lunch, etc.. My teeth start grinding at the costs... if I stop bringing my kids, because it gets too expensive, then they don't learn snowsports, etc... Maybe they'll pick them up later, maybe not, but if the hook is set now, then they'll come for life... If they take up soccer, say, because it's cheaper for me, then the lift co. loses a future customer, and me, the current one. Ski resorts should be bending over backwards, in light of demographics, to appeal to families and parents. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The free for kids creates expectations that accommodations cannot possibly go with. Lots of them think there are better ways to go about encouraging families, and I agree. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The problem is not locals. Anyone travelling from the city on a ski trip with kids is shelling out a lot for transport (big cars that can carry kids cost more), accom (which charges for kids), very quickly grown-out-of gear (which kids need), onsens (which charge for kids), etc. etc. All of this happens thanks to the existence of the ski resort, who aren't allowed to charge for kids because that would hurt the "future of the sport". If your kid isn't really into it and can't get value from a day pass, buy single tickets. Granted that the ski resorts could offer more flexible pricing in that regard. They can also offer discounts through local schools (which some of them do already) in day-trippable range, because the closer you are, the greater the importance of the cost of the ticket. The cost of a kids' lift ticket for someone coming to Hakuba from Osaka is a very small % of their trip cost. Half of such people will turn up in a car that cost at least 2 million yen and will happily pay Starbucks 900 yen for two takeaway coffees. Likewise anyone flying into Japan to ski. They can easily afford lift tickets for kids. Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Jim 65 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Most Japanese resorts offer ``kaisu-ken'' usually 10 to 12 rides that can be used over any visits during the season. Link to post Share on other sites
ShinyDiscoBall 2 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Be careful with them... a single tea-tray lift ain't the same as a gondola! Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 The problem is not locals. Anyone travelling from the city on a ski trip with kids is shelling out a lot for transport (big cars that can carry kids cost more), accom (which charges for kids), very quickly grown-out-of gear (which kids need), onsens (which charge for kids), etc. etc. All of this happens thanks to the existence of the ski resort, who aren't allowed to charge for kids because that would hurt the "future of the sport". Ski areas are not the only ones who charge less for kids, though. Kids' meals, clothing, gear, and accommodations are all generally cheaper than those for adults. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Are meals, clothing, gear and accommodation free anywhere at all? I don't see any problem with charging less than for adults. It's the free thing which is causing a bit of a fuss and I think unwarranted. Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Free? Is that common? I know the Prince resorts have kids free, but didn't realize it was widespread. Well, I guess it's not widespread where I go. Link to post Share on other sites
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