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Proper snow up on Asahidake today looking at the webcam.

 

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Just said on the news 9 days earlier than normal

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NASA has just reported that globally it was the warmest Aug ever recorded. Overall the summer was the 4th warmest Jun-Aug period ever recorded globally. Of course all this record warmth is what you'd expect just before the onset of an ice age.....if you're a complete imbecile.

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Of course all this record warmth is what you'd expect just before the onset of an ice age.....if you're a complete imbecile.

 

...but I thought that is what you were expecting?

 

:confused:

 

It's all jolly confusing.

 

For the record though, I don't think you're a complete imbecile... rather, a very charming, decent and very pleasant fellow.

:)

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And of course only an imbecile would believe everything he reads all the time.

 

Globally you say, so Japan, China, large parts of USA, Canada, 'Most' parts of Europe, which had colder than average temps this summer are not part of earth? They are part of another planet?

 

Get real GN!

Try living in the real world and follow blogs from people living around different parts of the world as well as scientific papers and you will see that in fact the world was far from the warmest this summer or 4th warmist or anything like that

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Press Release from the University of Texas

Researchers Find Major West Antarctic Glacier Melting from Geothermal Sources

June 10, 2014 – AUSTIN, Texas — Thwaites Glacier, the large, rapidly changing outlet of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, is not only being eroded by the ocean, it’s being melted from below by geothermal heat, researchers at the Institute for Geophysics at The University of Texas at Austin (UTIG) report in the current edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The findings significantly change the understanding of conditions beneath the West Antarctic Ice Sheet where accurate information has previously been unobtainable.

The Thwaites Glacier has been the focus of considerable attention in recent weeks as other groups of researchers found the glacier is on the way to collapse, but more data and computer modeling are needed to determine when the collapse will begin in earnest and at what rate the sea level will increase as it proceeds. The new observations by UTIG will greatly inform these ice sheet modeling efforts.

Thwaites Glacier - geothermal flow

This map shows the locations of geothermal flow underneath Thwaites Glacier in West Antarctica that were identified with airborne ice-penetrating radar. The dark magenta triangles show where geothermal flow exceeds 150 milliwatts per square meter, and the light magenta triangles show where flow exceeds 200 milliwatts per square meter. Letters C, D and E denote high melt areas: in the western-most tributary, C; adjacent to the Crary mountains, D; and in the upper portion of the central tributaries, E. Credit: University of Texas Institute Geophysics.

Using radar techniques to map how water flows under ice sheets, UTIG researchers were able to estimate ice melting rates and thus identify significant sources of geothermal heat under Thwaites Glacier. They found these sources are distributed over a wider area and are much hotter than previously assumed.

The geothermal heat contributed significantly to melting of the underside of the glacier, and it might be a key factor in allowing the ice sheet to slide, affecting the ice sheet’s stability and its contribution to future sea level rise.

The cause of the variable distribution of heat beneath the glacier is thought to be the movement of magma and associated volcanic activity arising from the rifting of the Earth’s crust beneath the West Antarctic Ice Sheet.

Knowledge of the heat distribution beneath Thwaites Glacier is crucial information that enables ice sheet modelers to more accurately predict the response of the glacier to the presence of a warming ocean.

Until now, scientists had been unable to measure the strength or location of heat flow under the glacier. Current ice sheet models have assumed that heat flow under the glacier is uniform like a pancake griddle with even heat distribution across the bottom of the ice.

The findings of lead author Dusty Schroeder and his colleagues show that the glacier sits on something more like a multi-burner stovetop with burners putting out heat at different levels at different locations.

“It’s the most complex thermal environment you might imagine,” said co-author Don Blankenship, a senior research scientist at UTIG and Schroeder’s Ph.D. adviser. “And then you plop the most critical dynamically unstable ice sheet on planet Earth in the middle of this thing, and then you try to model it. It’s virtually impossible.”

That’s why, he said, getting a handle on the distribution of geothermal heat flow under the ice sheet has been considered essential for understanding it.

Gathering knowledge about Thwaites Glacier is crucial to understanding what might happen to the West Antarctic Ice Sheet. An outlet glacier the size of Florida in the Amundsen Sea Embayment, it is up to 4,000 meters thick and is considered a key question mark in making projections of global sea level rise.

The glacier is retreating in the face of the warming ocean and is thought to be unstable because its interior lies more than two kilometers below sea level while, at the coast, the bottom of the glacier is quite shallow.

Because its interior connects to the vast portion of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet that lies deeply below sea level, the glacier is considered a gateway to the majority of West Antarctica’s potential sea level contribution.

The collapse of the Thwaites Glacier would cause an increase of global sea level of between 1 and 2 meters, with the potential for more than twice that from the entire West Antarctic Ice Sheet.

The UTIG researchers had previously used ice-penetrating airborne radar sounding data to image two vast interacting subglacial water systems under Thwaites Glacier. The results from this earlier work on water systems (also published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences) formed the foundation for the new work, which used the distribution of water beneath the glacier to determine the levels and locations of heat flow.

In each case, Schroeder, who received his Ph.D. in May, used techniques he had developed to pull information out of data collected by the radar developed at UTIG.

According to his findings, the minimum average geothermal heat flow beneath Thwaites Glacier is about 100 milliwatts per square meter, with hotspots over 200 milliwatts per square meter. For comparison, the average heat flow of the Earth’s continents is less than 65 milliwatts per square meter.

The presence of water and heat present researchers with significant challenges.

“The combination of variable subglacial geothermal heat flow and the interacting subglacial water system could threaten the stability of Thwaites Glacier in ways that we never before imagined,” Schroeder said.

For more information, contact: University Communications, Office of the President, 512 471 3151; Anton Caputo, Geology Foundation, Jackson School of Geosciences, 512-232-9623.

http://www.utexas.edu/news/2014/06/10/antarctic-glacier-melting/

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Record expansion of Antarctic sea ice confounds climate scientists

More hazardous than usual for shipping in the Southern Ocean.

“ANTARCTIC sea ice has expan­ded to its greatest coverage since records began in 1978,” says this article on theaustralian.com. (This is) continuing to confound climate scien­tists and proving even more hazardous than usual for shipping in the Southern Ocean.

Perhaps that they might not be so confounded if they bothered to include the known ice-age cycles in their calculations.

This article requires a subscription:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/climate/record-expansion-sees-antarctic-sea-ice-confound-climate-scientists/story-e6frg6xf-1227058298989#

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Record Antarctic sea ice more than twice the size of the contiguous United States

 

There has been a 1.5 per cent increase in sea ice each decade since records began in 1979.

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Antarctica – An area more than twice as big as the contiguous United States now covered by sea ice. (British Antarctic Survey)

Scientists say the extent of Antarctic sea ice cover now stands at its highest level since records began, says ABC news in Australia

Satellite imagery reveals an area of about 7.6 million sq miles (20 million sq km) covered by sea ice around the Antarctic continent.

Jan Lieser from the Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems Cooperative Research Centre (CRC) said the discovery was made two days ago.

“This is an area covered by sea ice which we’ve never seen from space before,” he said.

“That is roughly double the size of the Antarctic continent and about three times the size of Australia.”

It is also more than double the size of the entire contiguous United States, which covers 3,119,884.69 square miles (8,080,464.25 km²).

Record Antarctic sea ice:

 

Antarctic sea ice covers 19.619 million sq km (7.574 million sq miles)

Maximum area recorded on September 12, 2014.

Third year in a row a record has been reached.

There has been a 1.5 per cent increase each decade since records began in 1979.

Including the obligatory nod to global warming (of course), the article quotes Tony Worby, CEO of the Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems CRC, arguing that our warming atmosphere is leading to greater sea ice coverage by changing wind patterns.

How much ice will it take, I wonder, before we admit that “global warming” is the least of our worries?

Will the ice need to continue all the way up to Cape Horn, blocking the Drake Passage?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-14/record-coverage-of-antarctic-sea-ice/5742668

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Antarctic Sea Ice Extent – Yet another all-time record!!!

record.

“Amazing,” says sunshine hours website. “Day 256 has broken the day 255 all-time record by 110,000 sq km. And the daily record from 2013 was broken by 230,000 sq km.”

“History making.”

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This comes on top of yesterday “breaking the record set in 2013 by 48,000 sq km.”

http://sunshinehours.wordpress.com/2014/09/14/antarctic-sea-ice-extent-sep-14-2014-amazing-another-all-time-record/

 

http://sunshinehours.wordpress.com/2014/09/13/antarctic-sea-ice-extent-sept-13-2014-new-all-time-record/

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And of course only an imbecile would believe everything he reads all the time.

 

Globally you say, so Japan, China, large parts of USA, Canada, 'Most' parts of Europe, which had colder than average temps this summer are not part of earth? They are part of another planet?

 

Get real GN!

Try living in the real world and follow blogs from people living around different parts of the world as well as scientific papers and you will see that in fact the world was far from the warmest this summer

 

Real world snowdude? You mean the blogs of idiots like you who live in a delusional world where the ice is coming? No thanks. I'll stick to real science thanks.

 

This is the real world in August snowdude and it doesn't seem to be all that cold to me

 

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They are basesing that on a 1951-1980 anomaly, it is written there on the gop of that chart, a known colder 30 years, before a brief warming until around the turn of the century.

How about they include say a 100,000 year anomaly, it will be a very very differdnt picture.

 

I would not believe that chart at all, they even have parts on there showing much warmer than the reality.

OMG they have brain washed you as well.

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Actually the 50's and 60's were the coldest 2 decades of the 20th century. Shows how much you know about climate....nothing.

I do prefer the way NOAA does it though. They have a rolling decadal mean they compare temps to.

And you forget snowdude that I actually studied climate science for my major at university. I actually have knowledge in this field. I'm actually able to make considered opinions about the information out there. What did you major in? Nothing to do with science I know that much. You are completely ignorant on this subject. Beyond cutting and pasting from the blogs you frequent you know nothing of the science. You're what I refer as an 'internet intellectual'. Someone who thinks reading an internet blog for 5 mins somehow makes them more of an expert than specialists who've spent lifetimes of study and research on a subject. It's pure arrogance and pure stupidity. You're an idiot. You really are.

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Anyway I have to go out, some of us have a life in the real world.

CNo time to argue this with you anymore today, but I needed to set you right, beforw you brainwash others into believing the same rubbish as you do.

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Actually the 50's and 60's were the coldest 2 decades of the 20th century. Shows how much you know about climate....nothing.

 

BS!!!!!!!

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Actually the 50's and 60's were the coldest 2 decades of the 20th century. Shows how much you know about climate....nothing.

 

BS!!!!!!!

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Anyway I have to go out, some of us have a life in the real world.

CNo time to argue this with you anymore today, but I needed to set you right, beforw you brainwash others into believing the same rubbish as you do.

 

:lol: This from an imbecile who has never studied science a day in his life and certainly has no knowledge at all about climate science. You're a joke snowdude. You really are.

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snow in hokkaido.

 

also some in hakuba.

 

let's sking!!!11!!!!

 

When you say snow in Hakuba, you are refering to the mountain peaks?

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(Channels inner schoolchild)

FIGHT!FIGHT!FIGHT!FIGHT!FIGHT!FIGHT!FIGHT!FIGHT!FIGHT!

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