muikabochi 208 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 How much is gasoline/petrol where you are? I must admit that I normally don't take much notice but these last few days been in different parts of Niigata and noticed some real differences. Hi-oc ranging from 169 yen to 182 yen per litre. That's a fair difference. Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Regular in my area averaging 157-162 Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 We were in Niigata last week and regular looked like it was a few yen cheaper than in Nagano. Round here, even with self-service stations, you can pay 5-6 yen more in Hakuba than you do 30km away in Omachi. With a manned station, you can pay a few yen more again. Regarding the cost of driving, we got a hybrid van just before winter and it's just done 13.8 km/l for its first tank on normal tyres. That was off the clock, not the fuel economy display Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 13.8...?? I thought they did quite a bit better than that Mr Wiggles... I'm looking for a little used K vehicle for the daily commute not only to save some fuel costs but to save the wear and tear on the Cruiser. Preferably a Jimny or maybe a Pajero Mini. Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Either of those cars are good. Finding a pajero mini will be harder than finding a Jimny as Mitsubishi stopped making the Pajero mini so not so much choice of second hand at least thats what we found. Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Ah...there's a ton of them around though and quite a bit cheaper than Jimny's. Ideally, I'd like to get an older JA11 or 12 Jimny to beat on. Motors, trannies and parts are all over the internet. Mini's aren't nearly as popular especially for modding but stock parts are abundant. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 everytime I hear the name Pajero, it just makes me think of the simpsons episode with the shit 4wd truck, Cayonero Link to post Share on other sites
gozaimaas 61 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 ^^^^ unexplained fires are a matter for the courts! Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Smells like a steak and seats 35! Our hybrid van is an Alphard, which is a big car for that mileage. For short journeys, its looking like 12.5ish is more representative. By the sound of things a 4wd Fit or Note will only get 15 real world and that's with a light foot. We've also got an old Pajero Mini, the 10 y.o. Duke one which might just mean two-tone seats. I've not done any offroading on it, though there is a course about 20 minutes away at what used to be Omachi Ski Resort. http://www9.plala.or...lenakayama.html (I think some of the pricing info is out of date on that website) Ours is an automatic, and on ordinary roads, it gets up to about 4000 revs just to do 70km/h. It feels like the thing is missing a top gear. I carry firewood inside it, so it could probably do with a bit more love. Link to post Share on other sites
gozaimaas 61 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 4000rpm at 70klm in top gear is rediculous! Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 My car in top gear at 70kl/h would be doing about 1500 revs! Link to post Share on other sites
gozaimaas 61 Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 Next time you get tyres get the tallest ones you can! Link to post Share on other sites
wakaran 1 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Just on News Station about the rising cost of gas. Lower please! Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Mr Wiggles, are you sure your car is in top gear at 70? Quote (It feels like the thing is missing a top gear!) I reckon it is missing most of them! Today when I was on the motorway I checked my revs at 120k and my car was doing just 2200rpm in six gear. At 4000 revs in second gear my car was at 70kl/h. Even my K-truck does less 4000 revs at 70. Link to post Share on other sites
gozaimaas 61 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Engine capacity has a big effect on speed vs rpm Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 Interesting - who uses regular and who uses hi-oc? When should you be using hi-oc? Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I do the self service thing now. No need for all that wiping etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Around here it's 164-169. At one station near my house it's 159 if you buy a 10,000Y prepaid card. Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Mr Wiggles, are you sure your car is in top gear at 70? Quote (It feels like the thing is missing a top gear!) I reckon it is missing most of them! Today when I was on the motorway I checked my revs at 120k and my car was doing just 2200rpm in six gear. At 4000 revs in second gear my car was at 70kl/h. Even my K-truck does less 4000 revs at 70. Or maybe he was just going up a really steep hill... Yes, definitely something amiss with the "Mini Duke" Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Interesting - who uses regular and who uses hi-oc? When should you be using hi-oc? Regular for all my cars. Isnt hi oc equivalent to what we call or used to call 4 star in the UK and regular equals unleaded? I think only really old cars would use hi oc nowadays. That is how I am guessing it is, anyone correct me if I am wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
klingon 10 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I had this image it was sporty and more expensive (for want of a better word) cars Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I think that hi-oc should only be used on sports performance engines. I don't think it's the same as 4star, Snowdude. 4star is just Unleaded/regular, and 4star was what petrol was called when it had lead in it and before some engines got converted to take unleaded, they still had both at the pump. In the UK, Hi-Oc is called Premium........AFAIR Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I think Tubby is right there. K-cars and crappy cars don't use hi-oc. Expensive sexy cool cars do. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 I don't drive but I worked in a Shell Petrol station thru University Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted May 7, 2014 Share Posted May 7, 2014 Did you get to eat lots of Ginsters pies and pasties? Link to post Share on other sites
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