damian 0 Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 hi, last weekend was my first time in deep soft snow. I found that it was quite hard to maintain speed and a lot of the time everything below my knees was below teh snow. It was no doubt my technique that was at fault. I would lean back a little to try to keep the nose up and thus stop teh snow hitting my knees (and slowing me down). But if I leaned back to much this also slowed me down. Is there a correct balance, ie lean back some, but not to much? Also, would my board be a source of the sluggishness? As far as I know it has no wax on it at all. I weigh about 63kgs, board is 159 long, up to my nose. Link to post Share on other sites
indosnm 0 Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 hmmm, NO WAX? okashi jyanai desuka? just keep the back foot down so that your nose isn't diving and you should be right! with all this money you have been spending you havent had a wax yet? get it done soon! Link to post Share on other sites
jambo-gyoza 0 Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Very much a case of survival for me! Link to post Share on other sites
enderzero 0 Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Hmmm, I think you would notice the lack of wax more on the groomers than the pow. It is possible to put a majority of weight on your back leg while keeping you center of gravity over the board (think pushing down hard on your back leg but leaning forward). This may help you keep your momentum downhill. Link to post Share on other sites
Eriond 0 Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 What would be the technique for riding powder for a skier?? I will be going to Powderland - Hokkaido in January, and would like to be prepared Eri Link to post Share on other sites
zwelgen 0 Posted January 3, 2003 Share Posted January 3, 2003 I reckon with skiing you need to keep your skis closer together than on groomers because you can hit different stuff that can throw you. Keep your tips up but your weight forward. Imagine squatting more - getting your butt closer to your feet and your shoulders over the front a la Japanese squat toilets and you should be in a good stance. And keep the bouncing going so both feet are more equally weighted. And be glad that youre on skis and can walk out of most stuff and get your skis back on top when you get stuck. Link to post Share on other sites
enderzero 0 Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 Ugh, I went boarding yesterday in a whole lot of powder...wet powder. It was raining and lame and yes I definitely noticed the lack of wax more when I hit the wet powder - can you even call it powder? I should say I hit the wet new snow. It is hard work to keep your weight back but your momentum going forward. Link to post Share on other sites
nzlegend 1 Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 How flat/steep was the terrain you were on? the thing with deep powder is you need steeper slopes. It is tempting to see a nice patch of powder and to enter it, but if the slope is not good and you dont have much momentum to begin with, you will find yourself getting bogged down rather quickly. Link to post Share on other sites
nzlegend 1 Posted January 4, 2003 Share Posted January 4, 2003 Quote: Originally posted by Eriond: What would be the technique for riding powder for a skier?? I will be going to Powderland - Hokkaido in January, and would like to be prepared Eri Thing with skiis is dont get them sideways and dont do big turns, keep them always pointing down hill and do lots of bouncy turns, like a moguls skiier, thats why moguls are formed in the first place. Look at ski videos and see the pro's doing it, watch them in tandem making figure 8/chain lines. It is tempting when you pick up speed to slow down and get sideways but that is a mistake, keep straight keep turning constantly. Link to post Share on other sites
Will Lee 0 Posted January 6, 2003 Share Posted January 6, 2003 The most important thing is, DON`T STOP! Also, it may help if you reset the position of your bindings(move them back). Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted January 7, 2003 Author Share Posted January 7, 2003 you're right there, don't stop as a) it is too fun to stop it is a killer getting going again. I HATE GETTING BOGGED IN POWDER!! As for trying to stand up on a gentle slope in deep powder... almost impossible on a snowboard. As danz, several times over the trip to Hakkoda I was yelling "I hate these impracticle stupid boards! I can't even move my feet, I cant stand up now that I have fallen, I am getting bogged, I have to skate...." I also set my bindings back. It helped but I think it made controlling speed on hard snow a little harder. Not sure. db Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 I like to say keep your balance centered if your sking powder. Its like your whole foot is working the ski. Speed is key for both riding and sking. Powder equals friction. Depending on the type of equipment you use will change the way that you can turn but the balance is the same. With anything though its all practice. Link to post Share on other sites
huckster 0 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Just buy a pair of free ride skis. That should help out your technique. I bought a pair of Head I.M 75 Monsters this year and it's like night and day. Ski-On! Link to post Share on other sites
damian 0 Posted January 7, 2003 Author Share Posted January 7, 2003 Quote: Originally posted by Ripper: Just buy a pair of free ride skis. problem is, my snowboard boots just wont work in ski bindings. Link to post Share on other sites
mogski 0 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Sit back and relax! Skiing in powder is the only time you can really ride your tails without getting into too much trouble! Boarding I understand is about riding the back foot keeping the tip up. Don't try to use your edge type turns and just carve baby!!! Link to post Share on other sites
barok 0 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 glad this thread is still smokin` as I have been thinking about yer powder dilemna, deebs, and the answer is simple. . . you need speed - you need to go fast, as fast as you feel comfortable going. if you fall, you won`t hurt yerself (unless you are in the trees, and hit one) so there is really little cause for concern. . . just hit a steep slope, as kamoshika said, lean back, and point it. another big factor is your board. i forgot what you are riding, but having a board designed for freeriding under you is a big help. my freestyle board lags, but my freeride/powdertail board rips through it. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted January 7, 2003 Share Posted January 7, 2003 Hey Barok watch out for those Kamushukas in the trees too! Link to post Share on other sites
nzlegend 1 Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 Quote: Originally posted by Fattwins: Hey Barok watch out for those Kamushukas in the trees too! kamushukas?? dont you mean Kamoshikas Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted January 8, 2003 Share Posted January 8, 2003 I always get thoses damm animal names wrong. But Barok came within a meter of jumping on one. Link to post Share on other sites
Wizz 11 Posted January 9, 2003 Share Posted January 9, 2003 db - so how did you like the powder then?? Awesome? Link to post Share on other sites
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