Thundercat 60 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 How much does a shovel cost? Hey, if you want a discount I can do it for like 9000Y per tree. Think of the massive discount if you plant like 100 trees in your back yard! Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Well yeah, I'll do it for free!! Perhaps I misunderstood, but I don't think I did. Anyway, I certainly won't be paying 10000 yen to get a fairly small tree planted that's for sure! Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Sorry another question. Anyone ever have any bricklaying done and able to give me an idea of how much it cost to have it done? (What's your price BM? ) Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Don't know an answer I'm afraid but do they charge by the square m, or by brick or something? Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Back home they charge per cup of tea and bacon roll they can eat whilst showing their builders crack Link to post Share on other sites
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DumbStick 13 Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Seems to be by sqm. I'm having some difficulty seperating cost of bricks/materials from the labour which is kind of annoying me. I had this with the house but I hate it when things are unclear and they are unwilling to shed light on - makes it sound suspicious, even if it may not be. I don't know if it's the norm here but it's actually putting me off the until now faves to do the job which is disappointing. Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 Yep costs getting out of control here and some unreasonably 'let's rob him' kind of numbers I feel. As you suggested Mr Wiggles, they seem to be in the business of quoting inflated costs. Looking into using imported bricks and found some interesting alternatives. Any Aussies know of australbricks? Good reputation for quality product? Link to post Share on other sites
egglesby 1 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Are they willing to bend, or will they stand firm and give up on you? Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I can only say from our experience, but it felt like we paid the garden guy way more per hour of actual work than the various trades that built our house. Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 I am getting that impression. I have been researching bricklaying. (Oh the excitement). It seems a good brickie overseas is expected to be able to lay 500 and upwards a day, obviously depending on whether it's just a line of bricks or more complicated work. If there's say about 50 bricks in a sqm, that's 10m a day right? I may have misunderstood - still waiting for official mitsumori - but the guy seemed to be saying that the labour/skill work (ie. aside from materials) for bricklaying was 22,000 yen per sqm. If I'm not mistaken that works out at 220,000 yen for a days work! Am I missing something there? Other places I am now looking at seem to be saying 6000-9000 yen per sqm. Which seems much more realistic. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Where do I sign up to become a brickie in Japan!? Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I have done bricklaying before. Built an extention on my house many years ago in the UK. You pay me 8 man a day Ill soon come up to where you are and do the bricks for you. Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 Thinking of learning myself! Like I said there's a chance I misunderstood. Mitsumori incoming soon. I think he got the message that I wasn't going to be having any of that kind of nonsense though, so it will be interesting to see what he presents to me. Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 By your numbers, 22,000 per sq meter means 440 yen per brick. Does each one get a kiss and a cuddle? Do you want a wall that is single or double thickness? Unless its low, it should really be double thickness. Block walls are one of the first things to fall over in earthquakes. The labour cost shouldn't differ by double though because the amount of face work is the same. http://www.pavingexpert.com/featur03.htm Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Single thickness is what is on the plan - looks like 65cm tall (7-8 bricks?) with a fence on top. From what I gather they put steel rods through the bricks in places to make it stronger. You reckon single ok for that? The other brickwork is for flower beds, so at most 4 bricks. I'm going to ask for a no hugging no kissing cost! Link to post Share on other sites
stemik 14 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I think I will do some garden work this spring. I want to make a pergola so we can sit outside more often in the summer. I have given up on the grass. First we used luxurious grass seeds brought over from England. This mostly died after one year. Now I just cut the grass/weeds very short which enables the kids to play on the garden and looks ok from distance, but not too good close up. Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Hmmm, yeah I still can't make my mind up about the grass. Problem is, what's the alternative - other than totally tiled/bricked/whatever area. Link to post Share on other sites
7-11 2 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Fake grass! Link to post Share on other sites
stemik 14 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I did plant some korai grass (spell) at the front of the house. I think this is a Korean/Japanese blend. This seems to be a lot stronger and looks very nice, though it does turn brown in winter. Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 You know what, at the showroom we went to the other week they actually had an area of artificial grass. And you know what (2), it looked pretty good as well. When I saw it at first I rushed over thinking it was real and even close up it looked good. It would look good and not need the maintenance. The idea of using fake grass though.... hmmm. Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Hmmm, yeah I still can't make my mind up about the grass. Problem is, what's the alternative - other than totally tiled/bricked/whatever area. Small crushed stone with larger patio stones in various designs can look really nice. It really depends on the size of the garden though. I'm actually trying to figure out what to do with our backyard now after we had a few large trees taken out of our garden. There is a lot more space and a lot more light making it through now... Tough decisions! Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 You know what, thinking about it since I posted that, the only minus I can really think of is -- 'would it be naff'? And I suppose I answered that really when I saw it up close at the showroom and was surprised at how good it looked. It might actually be an idea worth at least considering. We'll be having plenty of natural flowers, shrubs and a few trees anyway. Well at least I'll give it a bit of research time! Link to post Share on other sites
DumbStick 13 Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 BM, yes that is actually what we have planne for some part but there's a fair bit of space and I don't want it all like that. I really would like a nice grass bit. Link to post Share on other sites
stemik 14 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 artificial grass might be the go! I saw some good looking stuff at Costco in the states last year, I am not sure if they sell it in Japan though. Crushed stones are alright (we have some) but it is nice to have grass for the color. Link to post Share on other sites
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