Mantas 3 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 My friend was surfing with this poor guy when it happened. His kids witnessed it too . Including the body. Very traumatic. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 What an awful thing Mantas. Every time I hear about another attack down there I worry a little more, I have a friend that moved to the area for her son to pursue a surfing career, he is out there every day. I'm not a big 'kill the sharks' fan, but it does seem the attacks are increasing... Maybe roll these out... http://worldwidenews003.blogspot.com.au/2013/07/shark-repellent-wetsuits-launched.html In fact maybe I should get my little mate one for Christmas... Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander L 80 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Sad news, feel sorry for th guy. But the comments in that news article are just ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites
Mantas 3 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I think I would suport a very well controlled and researched shark cull. Millions of sharks are killed every year for no other reason than to make a tasty soup and help some poor old Chinaman keep his pecka up. Culling a few rougue sharks to save human lives doesn't seem so radical in comparison . Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Millions of sharks are killed every year for no other reason than to make a tasty soup and help some poor old Chinaman keep his pecka up. Yes they need to stop that too. (Seriously though - millions?) Link to post Share on other sites
Mantas 3 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 So they say. Google it. Some say over 270 million a year! I wonder what people's attitude would be if bears killed 5 people in one year on the slopes on Nozawa. Blood and guts everywhere. Dont think there would be much talk of ' it's their territory, enter at your own risk' Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Are you sure it's not......270 billion!? Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 That's a lot of sharks though. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 (Even the million number). Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I'm all for killing as many of them as possible......well the small non maneater's can stay, but those other ones....yeah, bye bye Link to post Share on other sites
surfarthur 22 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I am not really in favor of a cull, but I am more and more on the fence on this issue now. On the one hand, the ocean is wilderness, and the sharks habitat. On the other hand, if killing 20 to 30 sharks would actually be all that is required as some people are suggesting, then I don't really see the harm in it. What keeps tipping me back towards not culling the sharks, is the fact that there is no scientific evidence to suggest that this will impact on the situation on the WA coast, particularly as we still don't really have a clear picture on the migration habits of great white sharks. We do know that they travel great distances, with one tagged shark having been recorded swimming from South Africa to NW Australia and back (20,000 km) in less than 9 months. I also think if we were talking about culling any other animal on the endangered species list, well, I just don't believe that we would be talking about it. I am seriously considering one of those wetsuits that mamabear posted about though. Link to post Share on other sites
Mantas 3 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Yes I question it's effectiveness too. A large shark swimming from South Africa and then taking a chomp out of someone is impossible to stop. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 surfarthur, What is the cost of a regular wettie? I looked those ones up and they were a bit exxy. No drama if you are a surfer and want to keep safe I suppose, but a bit out of my price range for a Chrissy pressie for a friend. Link to post Share on other sites
Alexander L 80 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 How come zebras are still eaten by lions? Link to post Share on other sites
surfarthur 22 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 For a standard steamer the price (depending on quality/label) varies from around $200 AUD to $500 AUD. There actually is a big difference between different types of neoprene in terms of flexibility and that is largely what you are paying for, as well as the way that the seams are sealed. If you don't mind me asking, how much is the shark suit? Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 https://radiator.net/category/diverter-surf/ $429.00 comparatively not that bad then... Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Jim 65 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 What's the price of an ABS backpack for back country? Seems to me if you want to surf with the sharks, it's your responsibility to do what's needed for self-preservation. I'd happily kill a shark I saw attacking a human -- even a snowboarder -- but killing one just to put its fin in some soup? That's disgusting. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 oh totally agree. I don't surf, never bought a wetsuit, so had no idea of approx. cost. I should because both my brothers practically live at the beach...but its the smell of chlorine at 6am that suits me But at $400+ his mother can buy him one! If it were me (or one of my cubs) in the sharkies environment I'd have one on order already! It's a funny looking suit, but if it gives you that little edge...it'd be worth it. Link to post Share on other sites
Mantas 3 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 There has been lots of gadgets made over the years to deter sharks. I reckon this is just another one. I'm pretty sure a diver in South Australia was taken whilst wearing some sort of shark deterrent device. What are they gunna do if it doesn't work and you get chomped? Money back guarantee? Also there's a lot of myths about shark behaviour i.e.. there's no sharks around while dolphins are present. This myth was well and truly busted when a local fisherman from here spotted a very large Great White with a dolphin in it's mouth! Tail hanging out one side, head the other! Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Reports here in the East are that they "think" it was "probably" a Great White - so there's a posse out looking for "it". Logically, how the hell do you know "it" when you don't even know for certain what type of animal "it" is? Or, do you just kill all the sharks you see just on the off chance that you've got the right one, perhaps! Seems dumb to me! Link to post Share on other sites
surfarthur 22 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Completely agree JA. If you were 100% certain that you had the correct shark then fine, but I just don't see how that is possible. Regarding the wetsuit, I wouldn't buy a wetsuit without trying it on. Each brand differ in fit. Also, being towards the upper end of the price scale, I would like to see that the neoprene is high quality and the construction is good. I haven't seen any of these wetsuits in any of the surf shops yet. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Why are most wetsuits black, seal like colour? Link to post Share on other sites
surfarthur 22 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 The neoprene is black - any other colours on a wetsuit are nylon over the neoprene. So to get lighter colours you need thicker nylon. And black is slimming. Link to post Share on other sites
Mantas 3 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Seems dumb to me! Maybe. It's more like they 'seem' to be doing something about it. In regards to identifying the shark. They would have a reasonable idea of the size and species. Factors such as bite radius, jaw shape, eyewitness accounts of the attack (most surfers around that area can identify different sharks), species that inhabit that area, recent sightings (and there have been many) . It narrows it down considerably. Almost definitely a large White and there's not too many of them around that area. I'd like to see more research into the effects of culling large Great White sharks on the local eco system and the food chain. If the impact proved to be minimal, then you would have to weigh it up against the safety of people wanting to enjoy the ocean. Two million people live in Perth. They have a basic right to feel safe when they go to the beach. It wouldn't be any different if it was bears killing people on the ski slopes. Think I'm leaning towards KILL THE SHARKS !! Link to post Share on other sites
seemore 66 Posted November 29, 2013 Author Share Posted November 29, 2013 I just bought a really good fuseflex wetsuit from quicksilver website $220 (60% off) black in colour. I doubt a shark would stop an attack if you were wearing a clown wetsuit I don't think there attacks are premeditated. They just go for it. I can't see a reason why Great Whites are are a protected species it's not as if there are a shortage of them. Just kill the big ones Link to post Share on other sites
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