Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I see that radiation levels are steadily rising in various parts of Japan, including Yamanakako here in Yamanashi, close to Fujisan! Otsuki also in Yamanashi, have really shot up! So far Kofu is ok, and where we will be moving to is fine, but with radiation still leaking from the plant, don't really expect it will get better anytime soon. Say what? They have been steadily dropping as far as I know, at least in north Kanto and south Tohoku. If levels are rising near you, I doubt it is due to the power plant. But a quick web search does not reveal any elevated levels in Otsuki or Yamanakako... Do you have a source for that? (You can PM me if it is a link.) Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Remember Metabo snowdude doesn't get any of his 'facts' from any sort of credible or scientific sources. Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Can you explain 1 a bit more Metabo? what is SPEEDI? SPEEDI is a computer program that takes wind direction and speed data and is supposed to be used to estimate the spread of radiation from nuclear power plant accidents, for use in emergency planning. In the event, the results were not used or released until way after they would have been useful in planning evacuation routes. Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 What did we find out in the end was the damage from the earthquake btw? Still not well known, but suspicion has been cast on the piping for the emergency cooling system of Reactor 1, and that for the pressure relief system for Reactor 2, at least. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 They really need to implement on of my 'dome' proposals. Perhaps also for Mount Fuji. It would be a spectacularly large dome but just imagine the sight if it came up in two halves from under the ground like some of the equipment those Interenational Rescue folk use as documented in 'Thunderbirds'. One worry with something so huge, of course, would be the speed in which it would be implemented. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Not to mention the cost! Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 It does have the virtue of simplicity, though. So often the simple, common-sense solution gets overlooked in favor of flashier, more complicated methods. Keep the faith, pie, your day of recognition will come. Link to post Share on other sites
snowdude 44 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I see that radiation levels are steadily rising in various parts of Japan, including Yamanakako here in Yamanashi, close to Fujisan! Otsuki also in Yamanashi, have really shot up! So far Kofu is ok, and where we will be moving to is fine, but with radiation still leaking from the plant, don't really expect it will get better anytime soon. Say what? They have been steadily dropping as far as I know, at least in north Kanto and south Tohoku. If levels are rising near you, I doubt it is due to the power plant. But a quick web search does not reveal any elevated levels in Otsuki or Yamanakako... Do you have a source for that? (You can PM me if it is a link.) It was in the Yamanashi Nichi Nichi shinbun. The ward office have been taking local measurements and soil samples which were sent off for testing and came back with higher readings than last year. Air radiation has also increased in the areas I mentioned above according to the results published in the Nichi Nichi shinbun. Link to post Share on other sites
Metabo Oyaji 71 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Do you remember the numbers? I don't see any mention in the online edition of the Yamanashi Nichi Nichi Shinbun, or on the town home pages of Otsuki or Yamanakako. (See some measurements from 2011, and some recent school lunch measurements -- nothing out of the ordinary -- but that is it.) In any case, since areas closer to the power plant than Yamanashi show steadily decreasing radiation levels (and have for two years now), I don't think the plant would be a likely source of new contamination in Otsuki or Yamanakako. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'll certainly continue my research Metabo Oyaji. Link to post Share on other sites
brit-gob 9 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 You do that, pie-eater. Solutions are needed to these problems and threats. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Was just having lunch and turned on the tv. The programme was doing a spot on the "strange things" going on around Shizuoka up to the border with Nagano of late. Whales on the beech, lots of fish dying, strangely high levels of alkaline in the river, that recent landslide etc. No-one seemed to be saying all these things are linked, but the question was there. Is this all a precursor to a giant quake, was what they were asking. So suppose the media aren't scared about talking about things like that. Makes for 'exciting' viewing I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites
merryJim 1 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 三宅島の地震の後にテレビで、その前に浜名湖のスロースリップがあり三宅島の辺りでの大きな地震がきたので、このあと浜名湖でスロースリップがあると昔の大きな地震(すいません、名前を忘れました)の時と同じ動きになると言っていました。 Apparently it's the "slow slip" (?) that is a concern. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Isn't growing alkalinity of rivers in and around a volcano a sign of magma movement underground? Release of volcanic gases through the river bed and Into the river etc Link to post Share on other sites
Karnidge 2 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Bet you's glad you away from that big funka waiting to happen! Pity you have to be in such a snowy place. All that moving snow and cold. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Yeah that is a benefit. I don't mind when it's snowy, that's mainly why I moved here.....but the non-winter cold is shit. If its sunny n cold....much better but it's been like moving to Scotland again....grey, cold drizzle. The past few days have been nice tho Link to post Share on other sites
Saitaman 1 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 Must be a bind being within striking distance of all those rubbish resorts up there. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 That's the worst of all... Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 "Mr Sunday" had a bit on Fuji eruptions and different evacuation plans. They keep on mentioning it. I see Crystal is not on Mr Sunday any more. Don't want to be rude but she always looked like she needed a right good shag to put a semblence of a smile on her face. Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Pie Eater....get on with that dome over Fuji will ya...... Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I'm on it, Chriselle. Though I suspect that a project of this size and complexity might take at least a few weeks to construct once approved. I'm not into faffing around all the details though, just outlining concepts and ideas. Link to post Share on other sites
klingon 10 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 No more Crystal! She did look very moody, I concur! Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Never too to her. I prefer 'complete' Japanese rather than the 'half' ones. She's in so many CM's though, I'm sure she won't be out of pocket any time soon and she'll also pop up somewhere else. Oh, back to earthquakes... Link to post Share on other sites
tokabochi 9 Posted May 25, 2013 Share Posted May 25, 2013 Nankai trough mag 8-9, 60-70% chance within 30 years. 90% within 50 years. Those pretty big % numbers there. What do they say it is for the under Tokyo one? 政府の地震調査委員会（委員長＝本蔵義守・東工大名誉教授）は２４日、東海地方から四国、九州沖にかけて延びる「南海トラフ」のどこかで、マグニチュード（Ｍ）８～９級の地震が３０年以内に発生する確率は、６０～７０％と発表した。 １０年以内は２０％程度、２０年以内４０～５０％、５０年以内９０％程度以上と予測している。 南海トラフを「東海」「東南海」「南海」の３領域に分けて発生確率を算出していた従来の手法を見直した。本蔵委員長はこの日の記者会見で、「Ｍ８以上の地震が発生する切迫性はかなり高い。今後の地震、津波対策を着実に推進してもらいたい」と話した。 今回の見直しは、広範囲のプレート（岩板）が動いた東日本大震災を教訓に実施された。これまで想定していたよりも広い範囲でプレートが動く可能性を考慮し、南海トラフの震源域を２倍以上に広げた。 Link to post Share on other sites
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