Tubby Beaver 209 Posted June 7, 2013 Share Posted June 7, 2013 Wow that'll be great for Myoko....I would've travelled there more had it been easier from Tokyo Link to post Share on other sites
TheOriginalMyoko 0 Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 The Iiyama station will be pretty close to Myoko to really. One on either side! Link to post Share on other sites
1 4 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Still the station is around 25km from Akakura and 30km from Suginohara. Link to post Share on other sites
hellyer 216 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 The Iiyama station will be pretty close to Myoko to really. One on either side! I drove past the Iiyama station a couple of times this year - it looks huge. The folks at Madarao Kogen are really excited as it is just 15 minutes or so up the hil to them and they are expectiing many more visitors. I am not so excited Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted June 10, 2013 Author Share Posted June 10, 2013 SJ-David kindly updated the topic thread. Link to post Share on other sites
iiyamadude 6 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Blends in with the natural surroundings Link to post Share on other sites
iiyamadude 6 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Actually, at least it looks slightly better than the Echigo Yuzawa one....... Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Madarao got to be excited about that opening, ne. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 It will be really interesting to see how it shakes up the popularity of places over there, and Yuzawa too. No doubt Yuzawa isn't thrilled at the prospect... Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Jim 65 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Wouldn't think it will have much effect on Yuzawa. It would be pretty round-about to go to Myoko/Madarao from the Kanto region via Yuzawa. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 I think he means the affect it has on the daytrippers who would usually go to Yuzawa because its easy to get to.....they may now chose to go to Myoko area instead Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Jim 65 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Exactly what I thought he meant, but it'll still be 1 hour + to Yuzawa vs 2 hours + to Myoko. I don't see that many daytrippers adding an extra hour of travel each way. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Not just daytrippers, lots of people. It seems fairly obvious to me that Yuzawa won't be particularly pleased. Not only is Myoko easier, but so is Madarao, Nozawa, Ryuo, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I don't see that many daytrippers adding an extra hour of travel each way. Many, many, many daytrippers do 2 hours to places. This will make it much easier to do other places. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 Considering the number of meetings and discussions regarding the new Nagano/Myoko/Toyama Shinkansen line going on in Yuzawa, I think it's safe to say that they are at least slightly concerned that Yuzawa tourism numbers will be affected. Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Jim 65 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 There was a time when I'd drive 4 hours one-way to ski for a day, so I'm sure there will be people who'll take the shinkansen to Myoko, etc. on daytrips. I'm just saying it's not going to be any massive shift that will hurt Yuzawa anymore than the original Nagano shinkansen did. There's still plenty of good skiing in the Yuzawa (apologies, Muika, but it'll always be Yuzawa to me ) area that'll be a lot quicker to reach. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted June 11, 2013 Author Share Posted June 11, 2013 I'm just saying it's not going to be any massive shift that will hurt Yuzawa anymore than the original Nagano shinkansen did. Cool. Perhaps then you should go to Yuzawa and re-assure the tourism businesses there, who worry otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Jim 65 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Losing faith in Mt Granview, are we? Link to post Share on other sites
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Tubby Beaver 209 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 I regularly travelled 4 hrs just to get to yuzawa so 1 extra hour to go to Myoko area would be fine. The swing wouldn't be the shink, but the time from station to resort....which is why I rarely went to Nagano 1 Link to post Share on other sites
onehunga 26 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Agree with Tubby on this, it's the time and ease from the station to resort that counts. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Just out of interest how much will a ticket to 'Joetsu Myoko Station' be from Tokyo, do we know that yet? Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Also agree. In reality I don't suppose places like Suginohara will be much different from Iiyama or Joetsu Myoko, with the former being cheaper on the train. Will they do shuttles from both? Link to post Share on other sites
NoFakie 45 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 Tokyo-myokowhatsitsface will be 8500 or so one way based on the ol' price by distance shink thing. With two people and a bit of etc discount, it might be cheaper to hire a car for the weekend. Add a kid or another person and its no contest. I reckon they'll end up heavily discounting the line like those trips to Gala. On the whole, I reckon Nozawa will benefit more than Myoko, but mainly from old dears going to sit in the onsen. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted June 11, 2013 Share Posted June 11, 2013 They'll have JR deals similar to the Yuzawa book. GALA is heavily discounted but then so are the other resorts. Kagura is generally 11k return for your shink and lift ticket....thats good value Link to post Share on other sites
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