grungy-gonads 54 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I had a lovely bottle of wine last night while watching the footie. The event was somewhat spoilt by result of the game but it was a really nice white. I found out it was some wine made in Yamanashi (?) and costs around 1000 yen a bottle. Never had any super expensive wine. Can you tell the difference? I can tell when one is really not good or just plain BAD, but beyond that must say it gets difficult. Anyone here in the habit of buying wine out at a restaurant? I generally prefer a beer so I often escape the rip-off city of the wine list but wondering how many people succumb. What's your price point? Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I love wine and can tell the difference between good and bad (and a few places in between). I almost never buy wine when I'm out because my wife can't drink it. I can usually find good ones at the shop for about 2,000-3,000Â¥. The max I would pay for a bottle of wine myself is 10,000Â¥. In the past I've bought bottles as expensive as 50,000Â¥ a bottle but those are for special occasions when I have guests. Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 There is a fair bit of snobbery around wine, but I do enjoy a good wine every now and again. Especially if I am not paying for it. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 the only thing I know about wine is that it comes in 2 varieties, white or red! Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Don't forget rose. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 thats just a mixture of the other two, isn't it?! Link to post Share on other sites
panhead_pete 27 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Back in Aus its my drink of choice. There is never a time when a decent bottle of bubbly isn't appropriate. My preference once the temp is below about 20C is a Pinot Noir. The king off reds, not too heavy, not too light. Originally Posted By: Black Mountain In the past I've bought bottles as expensive as 50,000Â¥ a bottle but those are for special occasions when I have guests. Damn I really should have dropped by Link to post Share on other sites
kokodoko 67 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 My favourite is an Argentinian Malbek. very nice. Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 had a great '88 saint emilion on Saturday. Shall find a pic of the label for you peasants. Link to post Share on other sites
bobby12 0 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 If its a 'grand cru' then it means it is expensive and you have to fawn over your host or whoever brought it. Wine is the ultimate in Emperor's new clothes. Even the experts cant tell what is expensive or not one a blind test. Its like a BS competition watching people 'taste' it and describe the flavors - come on get over yourself really you pretentious SOB. Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Originally Posted By: bobby12 If its a 'grand cru' then it means it is expensive and you have to fawn over your host or whoever brought it. Even the experts cant tell what is expensive or not one a blind test. Sorry dude but grand cru doesn't mean it's going to be expensive. And expensive doesn' mean it'll be good. Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 All a grand cru means is great/good place based on past reputation of production. Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Saturday's wine. Link to post Share on other sites
Slippery Jim 65 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Lot of very good Spanish wine around at reasonable prices these days. Link to post Share on other sites
pickled mushhead 0 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I'm not posh, I can only really drink sweet sparkling. Hate hate red wine, yuck. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I mentioned this before in another thread, but I watched a documentary that showed a taste test of wine. They got these wine buffs in to describe different types of wine. They wanted to see how much the colour influenced the interpretations. So they got white wine and added food dye until it looked exactly like red wine. It was well funny to watch these people describe the attributes of a red wine even although it was white they were drinking. Link to post Share on other sites
bobby12 0 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 hehe get in. I wish I had seen that. They should have tipped a huge bucket of the wine over their heads at the end too. Link to post Share on other sites
Chriselle 158 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Well, it's "Two Buck Chuck" for Bobby12 then. Me, I like a dry red in the 1000~2000yen range. Anything more and I can't really appreciate it and any less I feel like I should be drinking it under a bridge somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Originally Posted By: Chriselle Me, I like a dry red in the 1000~2000yen range. Anything more and I can't really appreciate it and any less I feel like I should be drinking it under a bridge somewhere. Swap red for white and yeah me too. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 nowt wrong with drinking wine under a bridge! Link to post Share on other sites
7-11 2 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Originally Posted By: Black Mountain I love wine and can tell the difference between good and bad (and a few places in between). I almost never buy wine when I'm out because my wife can't drink it. I can usually find good ones at the shop for about 2,000-3,000Â¥. The max I would pay for a bottle of wine myself is 10,000Â¥. In the past I've bought bottles as expensive as 50,000Â¥ a bottle but those are for special occasions when I have guests. About the same here, though change that limit to 5000 yen. Between that and 10000 yen don't make much difference to me. Never had a REALLY expensive one but would like to try. Link to post Share on other sites
Mintyjulep 0 Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Gah, I spent years at uni (3 to be precise) learning to be a winemaker. It is such a snobby shit-house profession that is incredibly underpaid, and you are criticised constantly by the head winemakers who are scared of losing their jobs to the younger crowd - which my old boss should have as he had become desensitised to sulphur and was adding far too much, and he couldn't pick up brett character so we had bacteria ridden barrels and tanks. I can tell the different between good wines and bad, I have done blind tests and all that, I know all about vineyard to winery - harvesting at night to restrict oxidation etc. I know about how to put some spark back in a dying wine, blah blah blah. I've done tastings with 14 grand cru Bordeaux wines from the 70's that were all brown and watery and AMAZING, I've also done tastings where I had to taste 100 wines in a day and explain each one, and they were horrendous. After five years all up, what have I learned? * The only good wine costs an arm or a leg. * I don't like wine * I don't like people who trade in wine at all, and only some people who make it or grow grapes * Don't take people in wine related careers seriously, just add chilli powder to their food in ever increasing amounts until their tastebuds and nose are ruined. * There are no rules, there are only marketing schemes. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 Interesting Minty. 3 years learning to be a winemaker?! What was the course called. Seems you came out of it with a positive outlook. Link to post Share on other sites
Mintyjulep 0 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Originally Posted By: grungy-gonads Interesting Minty. 3 years learning to be a winemaker?! What was the course called. Seems you came out of it with a positive outlook. Sorry, it's a bad back day - I've been taking it out on the internet in general. Link to post Share on other sites
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