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Yes dad, youre right. but not that one :/

 

Ive got ten days (feb 17th to 27th) and a stack of restrictions.

 

1. I need somewhere in cheapish reach of chubu airport (gunma, aichi, nagano, niigata id say).

2. I want to hit slackcountry features.

3. I wish i had a split board, but alas id be bootpacking and probably on my own. So maximum pow with minimum risk.

4. I needs pow and trees and untracked as possible.

5. It needs to be accessible by public transport and also have nice cheap accommodation.

 

So where should i go. Kagura sounds easy enough to reach but would it be honestly worth the bother leaving behind myoko for it? I mean myoko ticks the boxes right, i can just shuffle up the closed lift at the top of suginohara and hit lines up there all day, then bomb down in the trees and under the lifts? And then theres seki down the road...

 

Basically anywhere thats going to beat the crap out of my very biased nostalgic love of myoko?

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Kagura is easy enough to reach*, but from where? Are you wanting to go from Myoko to Kagura for a few days, or just spend all your time at Kagura?

 

*10 mins from Echigo Yuzawa Station / Yuzawa IC.

Which is 80 mins from Tokyo via Shinkansen.

Or 60 minutes from Niigata via Shinkansen.

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i reckon the central point is nagano and then hitting stuff from there. Might make it a three day trip or so, is it worth the bother or you reckon the time would be better spent myoko/nozawa/hakuba (have to hit hakuba even if only for an afternoon just because i need to see if that dude will split my board for me).

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To get to Kagura from Nagano, you will need to get over to Echigo Yuzawa which is a 100+ minute drive, then another 15 to Kagura. Not very convenient by train either.

 

Personally, I would be very pleased to stay with Nozawa, Myoko, and Hakuba and Shiga Kogen. There's more than enough there. Remember though I'm over-familiar with Kagura. Of course, with Kagura you've got Naeba attached too, though sounds like Kagura is more what you are looking for.

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Cheers for that!

Sounds like a pain then smile

 

Can you think of any other places that fill the criteria and are reasonably within range of nagano? (ie, 2 or so hours away to the main hub). You know, little powder magical lands like seki (not so secret i know) tucked away that no one but grizzly locals know about?

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tcha! i used to live in suzaka. No thanks! smile

 

And yeah it is, but i do it every year so was thinking of branching out this time into niigata to some super super secret place that gives me trees and pow all day smile

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oooh! you ninja editer smile That place looks great. Can you hit those trees? on the skiers right side easy enough in the shot that looks right down the mountain, because if they arent as tightly packed as they look, im so there! smile

 

And er, <cough> never went, but i lived in suzaka and that was enough to make me never go there razz

 

Actually i loved suzaka, but getting there was a pain without a car.

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Ive been sat on this site all night reading trip reports, and its slowly dawning on me i need to hit up shiga kogen. I never did it before (even though i lived on the train line), because the whole mythos surrounding it ("you MUST have a car to truly enjoy it") always put me off.

 

so lets say i spend a few days at myoko, a couple at ryuoo, and the rest minus 1 (splitboard run to hakuba before i leave) at shiga? Sounds like a plan? But the only place i actually knew was ryuoo, and turns out thats not even in shiga... 2 secs, ill try and do some of my own research for a tiny change smile

 

hang on! Are my eyes deceiving me?

 

Is it really just 4 quite big resorts?

Actually make that 1 MASSIVE resort!

 

shiga-resorts-l.gif

 

For the sake of pure intellectual curiosity, but could you snowboard from one side of shiga all the way to the other just by carefully choosing lifts? If you can, what a fun place? Id be lapping that just to say i did smile I might even spend all ten days there!

 

I assume you cant and theres actually a bit of space between them... but anyone with a bit of sneaky knowledge? If it can be done, by god! it NEEDS to be done! smile I assume though if it can be done it would have been done and the fact it probably hasnt been done shows that im looking at a ski map equivalent of the london underground map smile

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as far as I'm aware the lifts link together, I didn't do this when I went there, I was based over next to Ichinose Takenonahara or something along those lines. Terrakoya, Tanne-no-mori, Ichinose and Yakebitaiyama were more than enough. I loved the place

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No 100%. The bit between Kumanoyu/Yokoteyama in the south is not connected or skiable - you need to take a short bus ride for that.

 

Then again, you might not want to because Kumanoyu is skiers-only.

 

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say if for example you were an obnoxious snowboarder, and started at shibutouge, how on earth do they stop you riding all the way back down to maeyama? I mean id understand if they made the whole area there skier only and i have nothing against skier only if thats what they want (hey! we all got to get people to our resorts somehow?), but that looks like a straight run down under the gondola right there! and if not, it looks very much connected. Sure i cant ride it back up, but riding it down seems, well, inevitable.

 

And speaking of inevitable. I was up till 1.30 last night hunting for some kind of knackered digs in that place for a single person just bombing the terrain. I have been led to believe that in fact the bottom prices are a cool 6 or 7,000 yen pppnt! And thats based on two people sharing. :/ I assume theres a premium if its just you on your own.

 

You dont HAVE to give me actual cheap places (though itd be nice), but just tell me theres something out there in the 3-4k range, or something that has a sick package with a lift pass making it doable. 11k per day, scran not inclusive, is pretty much spanners in the plan.

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Dudes i have some really odd questions:

 

1. Is there a bus+lift package deal for nagano ---> shiga, myoko or ryuoo? I cant see one and assume thats my answer, but thought id check.

 

2. If shiga kogen is too expensive (it is), would it be feasible to base ones self at kita shiga kogen? Prices there are reasonable sounding.

Yudanaka is also an option but seems a bit of a pain.

3. Being on your own is a gigantic pain in the ass. Its either a 2000 premium for an empty bed, or no option at all for booking. Anyone have any info on accommodation in shiga/ryuoo thats around 4k (no meals) and not trying to gouge me because i have no friends?

At this rate its gonna be hakuba/myoko yet again :'( Ah well, theres worse things at sea smile

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I would have thought getting to Shiga Kogen from Ryuoo Ski Park would be more than from Yudanaka. After all, Yudanaka is between the two (ie. between Ryuoo Ski Park and Shiga Kogen).

 

You just need to get more money, ippy wink

 

What about the Nozzle, and staying in Togari which will be cheaper.

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it would actually be cute to hit togari! its the place i learned to link my first turn smile It also has that run/non run that i couldnt even look over the edge of because i got vertigo but which i later found out was about 37 degrees and not the 70-80 i always believed it to be!

 

And even if i had more money id still be trying to find the cheap ass option. Its something hardwired in my brain smile

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