gurgle 0 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Originally Posted By: brit-gob Players don't get paid salary to play for their country. They get paid to play for their club which is an entirely different thing. Actually I meant the combined value of their club salaries.... along the lines of some leagues are maybe just a little over rated...... Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I have to totally disagree with the assumption that England would have lost anyway even if the goal was allowed. There was a massive momentum shift at the end of the first half... I guess there really is no fairness in the beautiful game! Link to post Share on other sites
brit-gob 9 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I don't know. However, the argument is flawed. The performance of a country in the World Cup really has close to no link in to the quality of a countries league. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Totally. Look at Ghana. What league? Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 same with the US. What league? Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 It might have changed the course of the game Black Mountain but Germany were so clearly better than England in all respects, it's hard to think they would have pulled through. Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 A big majority of the worlds best players play in the Premier League, La Liga or Serie A. Does that fuel your argument at all or just make you go Link to post Share on other sites
bobby12 0 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I'm with Black Mountain - if it went to 2-2, it would have been like Istanbul and we would have held on I think. But we will never know, instead we had to keep chasing the game and got caught on the break twice. Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 We will never know for sure and that is a possibility. But seriously, have England ever looked decent in this World Cup campaign? Can't see it myself. They were generally simply miserable and clueless. Putting them out of their misery was the best thing. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Bra-sil tonight. Let's have some decent football. Link to post Share on other sites
gurgle 0 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 Originally Posted By: scouser A big majority of the worlds best players play in the Premier League, La Liga or Serie A. Does that fuel your argument at all or just make you go I guess it's all about the $$$. Leagues with the most attract the world's best players and perhaps a few of the domestic players would not make it into the "best league" if one ever existed. Just wondering why England are always so cr@p. Maybe it's just because they are not as good.... Apparently Germany spend way for than England on youth programs, but I guess plenty spend more than Ghana, Cote d'ivoire, etc. So that argument doesn't go too far either. Link to post Share on other sites
bobby12 0 Posted June 28, 2010 Share Posted June 28, 2010 I think England have had a problem with team spirit for a long time, I think that was why Capello as brought in. Link to post Share on other sites
2pints-mate 0 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 I did not see it but I have read that Tevez was a good 2m off side for the first Argie goal last night. And the officials, after the fact, could see on the replays on the big screens that that was the case. But they were unable to undo a decision made literally seconds before. It's truly madness that the 4th official can't radio in and tell the ref seconds after after checking on a vid screen when things like the two incidents last night happens. It is really undermining the sport. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 It wasn't 2 meters. It was more like 1.85. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 yeah he was totally off. The stadium made a mistake in re-showing the incident on the big screen so although all the players, fans and even the officials saw that, as no video replay evidence is allowed the ref had to ignore the screen and go with hs first decison....madness!! His 2nd was a cracker though Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 2nd was a cracker, the cocky stumpy ugly git. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 a bit of luck in the set up but man he finished it all right Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 whos most likely golden bootface now? Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 Hmmmm difficult one. Until last night I was convinced it would be Wayne Rooney. Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share Posted June 29, 2010 Or Emile Heskey. But probably Wayne. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 OK, ladies and gentle peeps tonight we have Holland v Slovakia - don't care and Brazil v Chile The Chilean side are more physical in attitude and would do a lot of running since they will have more oxygen in their blood stream than normally in Chile. The Brazillians have the samba blood and would of course dance through the game as if it was Mardi Gras. Plus they have Kaka back, who should be able to defend himself with a nice elbow. Close one to call, but Brazil should take it 4 - 0. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 not bad Thurs, only 1 goal in it! Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Aren't Japan playing sometime soon? Turned on the telly, and I couldn't find any info on it at all. Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Not sure pie-eater. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted June 29, 2010 Share Posted June 29, 2010 Japan tonight. Link to post Share on other sites
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