SantaCruz 0 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 MB, on my old team @ Microsoft our documentation person is deaf. Whenever she was at our meetings she had the interpreter as well. She's super chill. I think she reads lips, but then I talk fast & mumble so that doesn't work so well, d'oh! So most of the time we end up chatting via Messenger or just using good old Notepad But big props to you for being able to do the interpretter thing. Half the time I'm not sure what I'm saying let alone someone else! Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 There's deaf and there's deaf! I have continuous tinnitus (ringing in the ears) 24/7 and significant loss at certain frequencies. Whilst I can hear most people OK when they are talking AT me (and I can see their lips moving), as soon as they turn away even slightly, I loose the words. And, those radio announcers with super deep voices might as well not bother (same for many of the West Indian cricketers, as it happens!). People don't seem to understand that, even though I wear an aid, I cannot hear as well as most others do. I find myself often asking people to talk at me, and to speak up a little, so I can stay in touch. The stupid aid has the mic facing to the rear! That causes a slight disorientation. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 You also lose the ability to triangulate location when you use an aid because the amplification puts the sound IN your ear rather than out there in the location it originated at. Must be a huge frustration! And speaking of frustration - tinnitus - ai yi yi - JA! I have short lived episodic tinnitus and even THAT sucks! Papa has some age/pub loudness related deafness, and I have noticed one of my friends who is pushing 50 is really struggling with it as well. But this kind of deafness is deaf with a lower case d (hee hee - really...that's how it is described within the community!) as opposed to Deafness (with a capital D). The difference is more of an identity thing than it is a decibel loss thing. Most Deaf are signers, even if they can manage with aids. SantaCruz MSN, Mobile phone text messages, internet, email, video skype etc have all been a HUGE boom to the Deaf community. It really has leveled out the playing field a bit. Even just 15 years ago it was a very different world for them....a much more dependent world - and no grown man or woman wants to be dependent. Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Good things. Talking of skype I really don't like the newest version. It's annoying me. Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Originally Posted By: Mamabear Most Deaf are signers, even if they can manage with aids. How do Japanese Deaf people manage with the signing? Is there a JLAN? (Asking because I am having more than a little difficulty with learning "normal" Nihongo - at 60+ my time for easy language learning is well and truly past! Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 There is absolutely a Japanese Sign Language. One of my very dear Deaf friends' partner recently got back from an Deaf Surfing tour in Japan. He really enjoyed it. (She is a snowboarder). Sign Languages are different all around the world, but there is an iconic base that allows for simple communication to be easily managed between Deaf people world over. It is not an 'international' language, but it is fairly easy to communicate basic concepts very quickly - more complex interaction requires some time learning each others languages. But interestingly Sign Language is different in England, Australia and America - even though they all speak English. In fact - American Sign Language more closely resembles French SL than it does Australian SL!! Sign is a great option for people losing their hearing - heck it is a great option in a night club - it is a great option for communication across a crowded on mountain restaurant - who wants to shout! And I have never had too much trouble making myself understood - not matter which country we are in. Link to post Share on other sites
JA2340 16 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 We managed to get by for a couple of visits to J-land with minimal Nihongo and the "universal pointing language" - especially in restaurants. We're currently studying the menu language so we can tell what might be in a dish, but not enough to be classed as fluent, that'd take more lifetimes than I have left! Link to post Share on other sites
gareth_oau 2 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 "be that as it may..." Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted December 23, 2009 Author Share Posted December 23, 2009 "Mondays suck" Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 "work harder you lazy gaijin dog!" Link to post Share on other sites
gareth_oau 2 Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 haha, i work smarter, not harder Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 smart working doesnt cut ice in Japan, its hard work or the salt mines for you Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted December 24, 2009 Author Share Posted December 24, 2009 gareth, that one has already been de-flowered. Link to post Share on other sites
gareth_oau 2 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 TB, Ive worked for a Japanese company for 21 years and I'm amazed at how 'hard' they work, just a shame the net output for all those hours isnt anything to write home about Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 yeah but they "ganbaru" like no one on earth!! Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 Originally Posted By: gareth_oau TB, Ive worked for a Japanese company for 21 years and I'm amazed at how 'hard' they work, just a shame the net output for all those hours isnt anything to write home about Exactly. The long hours they put in rarely mean there's actually that much work to get done or that they are working anything like efficiently. They just hang around the office so long because either they think it's expected or they really don't want to go home to their wives... Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted December 24, 2009 Share Posted December 24, 2009 They also seem to very much enjoy commenting on hard they are working and how hard working Japanese people are in general. In contrast to us slacking gaijin types of course. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted December 24, 2009 Author Share Posted December 24, 2009 it's also the status of arriving home late at night when the ids are asleep. He must be important to have to work and entertain that much. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted December 8, 2010 Author Share Posted December 8, 2010 A lot of those young dudes are saying "whatever" now. That really gets my goat. Link to post Share on other sites
panhead_pete 27 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Originally Posted By: Mamabear There is absolutely a Japanese Sign Language. One of my very dear Deaf friends' partner recently got back from an Deaf Surfing tour in Japan. He really enjoyed it. (She is a snowboarder). So he wouldnt be able to hear the Brazilians in the water in Indo? - Bliss. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Originally Posted By: thursday A lot of those young dudes are saying "whatever" now. That really gets my goat. Whatever. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 Originally Posted By: thursday A lot of those young dudes are saying "whatever" now. That really gets my goat. whatever dude...like....how many goats have you got? Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted December 8, 2010 Author Share Posted December 8, 2010 NOT Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted December 8, 2010 Share Posted December 8, 2010 ^^^ Link to post Share on other sites
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