Jynxx 4 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 So, I find it's harder to get out of powder when you fall with a snowboard. When it's knee deep It's easier with skis. Being sideways I find it a bit more tricky and when it's flat, impossible to get going. I have never ridden waist deep powder and that will be a different story. I think it will be a lot harder even with skis and I don't have a clue how to get back on with snowboards. Any tips? Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I tend to "swim" backwards. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 That is such a funny visual - perhaps you can do a "how to" video for us Rob and upload I'm sure it is not half as funny as it sounds! Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Well it's kinda like making yourself as big as possible to increase the overall mass spread out thus reducing the pressure on a smaller area. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Yep - we defo need a HOW TO vid Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Well if i fall over in powder then will do one. But IF. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 ....ohhh - someone push him over me! I want a video! Link to post Share on other sites
Thundercat 60 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 I like to roll onto my stomach (got a little extra padding there so its a comfy way of getting up in deep powder) Link to post Share on other sites
blu 3 Posted November 7, 2009 Share Posted November 7, 2009 Depends how steep the slope is. Most times you can just dig the tip/nose out and keep going. It can get really difficult if it's flatter & you have to take the back foot out and dig & skate. Never had much luck with swimming out, although I haven't tried the backstroke yet. Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted November 7, 2009 Author Share Posted November 7, 2009 I'm going a bit nuts visualizing Rob's backward swim, too. I was finding it difficult to get up (push myself up) when my board is placed higher than my body (bum) . When it's steep it's ok, I can use the incline and try to push off with my hands (which is difficult to push soft snow) but the flatter it gets it it's a problem. I just have to make sure I hit it with speed and don't fall down but I just couldn't help myself hitting a natural quarter pipe and falling into the deep snow that collected under it. I think there is a trick to set up my snowboard at the right angle and depth so it can take off, but the question is: When it gets deeper, do I have to build a ramp underneath me so I can be near the top surface? This is where it gets difficult with a snowboard because it's shorter, sideways and both legs strapped. Also, when it's really deep and you fall head first, can you dig yourself out? Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Originally Posted By: Jynxx I'm going a bit nuts visualizing Rob's backward swim, too. I was finding it difficult to get up (push myself up) when my board is placed higher than my body (bum) . When it's steep it's ok, I can use the incline and try to push off with my hands (which is difficult to push soft snow) but the flatter it gets it it's a problem. I just have to make sure I hit it with speed and don't fall down but I just couldn't help myself hitting a natural quarter pipe and falling into the deep snow that collected under it. I think there is a trick to set up my snowboard at the right angle and depth so it can take off, but the question is: When it gets deeper, do I have to build a ramp underneath me so I can be near the top surface? This is where it gets difficult with a snowboard because it's shorter, sideways and both legs strapped. Also, when it's really deep and you fall head first, can you dig yourself out? well people have died this way, falling head first into tree wells and getting stuck and end up suffocating. be careful out there Link to post Share on other sites
RobBright 35 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Head first - the first time I did, I shat myself thinking I was going to die, all the blood rushing to my head. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 My then 14 yr old got stuck head first in Strawberry Fields - he was riding down for the first time thru there, with one of the Dad's. When they got to the bottom it was like "where's Jake?" ....20 minutes later Jake turned up - took him forever to dig out. He said the same Rob "Shat myself!" Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted November 8, 2009 Author Share Posted November 8, 2009 My missus was laughing so hard when I was falling over trying to get up and catch up with her waiting at the bottom. She said I looked like a snail rolling around. We are pretty confident to try some more deep stuff (after all, it's not that difficult to board compared to going down icy moguls) and having the security of someone watching over is good. Love that feeling of hydro-planing. Just don't like it when you get so out of breath getting out when you are already up at high altitude. Trees are not on my agenda. Link to post Share on other sites
mikelowry 0 Posted November 8, 2009 Share Posted November 8, 2009 Jynxx. Turtle yourself around a bit until you get the nose pointing downhill. Then sit your arse and weight as much over your back foot as you can, so you are basically sitting on your back boot. Only been left with the unclip and walk option once. Two hours in the back country in Rusutsu. Not much fun. Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted November 8, 2009 Author Share Posted November 8, 2009 Originally Posted By: mikelowry Jynxx. Turtle yourself around a bit ... that's a good one. cheers. Quote: Only been left with the unclip and walk option once. Two hours in the back country in Rusutsu. Not much fun. It really is tempting to get a splitboard Link to post Share on other sites
greg 4 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 The best tip I can offer would be to get fit. As the day wears on the weaker you get and the harder it gets to get back up. Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 Knees do get a bit stiff, lose that flexibility to go down moguls at the end of the day. Some places it does get more bumpy and icy in the afternoon. Powder can be hard work, too. There is a limit where I stop so I have the knees for the next day. I met a large group of Japanese people skiing in Austria. They were 56~77 year olds staying for 2 weeks. 77 yo has been here for the 5th time and most of the others were repeat visitors. Very good skiers and very fit. This is @3000m ASL by the way. Was really interesting talking with them. Inspired. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Get the lass to pull me out. Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 Ain't nobody's stopping for you, would you when you gonna get stuck, too ? Link to post Share on other sites
Timmyhugecans 0 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 The main key is NOT to Panic. You will burn to much energy. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Originally Posted By: Jynxx Ain't nobody's stopping for you, would you when you gonna get stuck, too ? That is one of the disadvantages of riding with your children. There is some automatic switch goes off in your head and no matter how much you wanna ride on by - you just HAVE TO go get yourself stuck in that pow to free up the offspring. On a positive note - I have done stuff I never would have attempted (coz I am too smart and have a strong sense of self preservation) as a direct result of following/helping the kids. It has stretched my abilities to the limit - and taught me I am more resilient than I thought. Link to post Share on other sites
MrSingh 0 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 1. If you have any momentum, carry that through and perform a roll, get up and continue riding. 2. If you are stationary on a slope, try to get on your toeside (i.e. anterior facing the mountain) to push yourself up. It's easier than having your back against the slope. 3. If your board is stuck deep in powder: - dig your board out, release your feet from the bindings - pack down an area near you - if your balance is good enough, stand on the board and strap yourself in - if you can't balance yourself on the board, sit on the packed snow and strap yourself in, then proceed to step (2) above 4. If you're stuck in the flats. Whip out those snowshoes. Link to post Share on other sites
gerard 6 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Near-waste deep snow. Skiing across the fall line slowly with not enough momentum to turn and you suddenly realize you've got too much wait on the downhill ski and it's just a matter of time before you flop over. It's awkward no doubt about it. Link to post Share on other sites
Jynxx 4 Posted November 9, 2009 Author Share Posted November 9, 2009 Thanks MrSingh. Good plan of action. I wonder if there is such a thing as too much powder for some people. I'm quite happy with knee deep but hey, I take what's there. Link to post Share on other sites
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