muikabochi 208 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I was having a chat with SJ#1 last night in a bar downtown, seems he's going to be part of the panel for a conference meeting in Niigata about the "2014 Shinkansen mondai (problem)" later this month. (Hope you don't mind me mentioning that SJ1). Basically, it's about the fact that in 2014 when the Nagano Shinkansen gets extended to go north through Joetsu and then south west towards Kansai, they reckon that a lot of people will use that instead of the Niigata (Joetsu) Shinkansen and that there will be a lot of reprecussions for Niigata - ie. less Joetsu Shinkansens going to Niigata than now and a big economic effect. It seems that JR haven't announced that they will decrease the number of Shinks coming through Niigata, but they surely will if the numbers are down. Interesting topic I thought, but unsure as to why there would be a big effect on the Joetsu Shinkansen - surely people coming to Niigata would still be coming to Niigata? I suppose now a lot of people get off at Yuzawa and then change over to the Hokuhoku-sen to get to Joetsu and that will be affected quite a lot.... Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 People I suppose will use that to go up to Myoko as well? Having said that, where will be the nearest station to Myoko, Joetsu? That would have been good for Arai maybe! Link to post Share on other sites
muikabochi 208 Posted September 17, 2008 Author Share Posted September 17, 2008 I think the nearest will be Joetsu, but you'll have to backtrack to get to Myoko - so how much better cost it is than getting the local train from Nagano > Myoko, I'm not sure. I don't suppose that much really. Will it make much of a difference for people getting to Hakuba from the south? Link to post Share on other sites
SKI 15 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Even if they reduced the number of Shinks going up to Niigata, and without knowing too much about all of this, I'd have thought there will still be plenty stopping at Echigo Yuzawa - I would think that particular area would not be affected too much though places to the north might be more. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 I really dont see that having an effect on yuzawa. if anything that will hurt places like hakuba more. A really un needed waste of tax payers money as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Rag-Doll 0 Posted September 17, 2008 Share Posted September 17, 2008 Originally Posted By: Fattwins if anything that will hurt places like hakuba more. why is that FT? Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 because it goes through nagano to and makes getting to other resorts look easier. yuzawa is a cheap one day to 2 day wonder. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted September 18, 2008 Share Posted September 18, 2008 But it already goes through Nagano.... Link to post Share on other sites
zdlfskdladealijfsxdfk 0 Posted September 20, 2008 Share Posted September 20, 2008 I think there were 10,000 people a day or so using Hokuhoku to get to Joetsu and then beyond. Those will more than likely be changing over to the new Shink. Will it be called Nagano Shinkansen still to Nagano or will it all be renamed Hokuriku Shinkansen? Link to post Share on other sites
SnowJapan Admin SnowJapan#Andrew 6 Posted September 20, 2008 SnowJapan Admin Share Posted September 20, 2008 I believe the official number of people that they estimate will 'swap' from using the Hokuhoku (Yuzawa > Joetsu) to using the new Shinkansen is 6,500 daily. I'll post something if there is anything particularly interesting coming out of the conference. Link to post Share on other sites
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