tsondaboy 0 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I didn't watch the game but it always makes me happy to see Ronaldo losing. Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Good good well now perhaps he can look down into his trousers and see if he actually does have any balls and tell his employers and supporters what he intends to do. Link to post Share on other sites
tsondaboy 0 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 What are you talking about rach, wasn't he castrated so that he doesn't reproduce???? Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Regarding if he will be asking for a tranfer request or not. A quick look at any footie news site will give you way more info that you want/need! Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Germany through but we don't want them to get any further now. Sack Scolari! Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 oh well, with Portugal out, the tabloids can concentrate on Ronaldo without disturbance from a game here and there. Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Oh goodie! I am actually looking forward to hearing what the real story is behind all that lot. Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Ronaldo says he will make up his mind soon. What mind? United release a press release this morning "He be not for sale". Oh its going to be juicy. Link to post Share on other sites
2pints-mate 0 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Tell you what though, he is showing himself to be a complete and utter tosser in all this. I mean I think most of us knew that anyway, but the proof is just overwhelming. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Happy Portugal got knocked out. I just can't stand Ronaldo, what a dick! I reckon it'll be the Spaniards or the Dutch. TBH the Dutch have probably played the best football so far, even when they played their 2nd XI they were still good. Link to post Share on other sites
tsondaboy 0 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 I also think Dutch or Croatians. Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 Turkey vs Croatia - another game to watch. Spain or Dutch yep that would sound about right. Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 So many Ronaldo things coming out now. Sounds like such a nice chap: Quote: First of all a little story to tell you what kind of man we are talking about. It is January 9, 2008, and in an upstairs room at Manchester United's training ground five elderly men in smart blazers are struggling with their emotions in front of a hushed audience. It is the club's media day building up to the 50th anniversary of the Munich air disaster and Sir Bobby Charlton's polite smile does not hide the fact he is trembling as he takes his seat. Bill Foulkes is straight-backed and dignified but only a couple of questions have been asked before the tears appear in his eyes and he reaches for a glass of water. In an adjacent room Wayne Rooney has agreed to offer a modern-day perspective of that seminal day when 23 people, including eight members of Sir Matt Busby's team, were killed in the wreckage of the burnt-out BEA Elizabethan. It is not his specialist subject but he handles the occasion with dignity and more eloquence than some people might imagine. But then Cristiano Ronaldo comes through the double doors and the mood is broken. He is wearing a white suit jacket and ripped jeans, looking every bit the boy-band hunk, but it is very obvious he is in a bad mood. He begins by berating Karen Shotbolt, the club's press officer, because he is waiting for Rooney and the event has over-run. He is banging his watch with his hand, flapping his arms and gesturing in the way that Portuguese footballers usually reserve for fussy referees and, at first, he is so animated it appears as if it might be a wind-up. When he flounces back through the doors, cursing loudly, it is very obvious he is being deadly serious. Rooney is professional enough to carry on with his tribute but the attention is no longer exclusively on him. Thirty seconds later Ronaldo appears again, first rapping his forefinger against the glass in the door, then opening it by a fraction and starting to whistle at Rooney in the way that a farmer beckons his sheepdog. It was such an unpleasant scene the journalists decided not to write about it because we had been invited to the training ground to cover a far more important subject and, when you have sat with men as noble as Charlton, Foulkes, Albert Scanlon, Harry Gregg and Kenny Morgans and seen the hurt in their eyes, it felt incongruous to veer off-track. But coming away from Carrington that day it was difficult not to wonder what had become of the pimply teenager with the braces on his teeth who had been photographed, in his first few weeks as a United player, holding hands with his mother, Dolores, as they crossed a busy Manchester street. The answer, of course, is that Ronaldo has fallen in love with his own reflection and, as United are currently finding out, that ego is in danger of spiralling out of control. Nor, sadly, is this story a one-off. One member of staff at Old Trafford reports being shocked by his rudeness when sorting out his travel arrangements for a club trip last season. And then there was last season's Football Writers' Association's annual dinner when, with barely any notice, its player of the year demanded that space was made for five of his friends to attend and that he would like them all to be on the top table with him. He got his way, as superstars often do, but the organisers were unimpressed, to say the least. This is not to say that Ronaldo is all bad. He won a court case against the Sun earlier this week after it was reported that he had been fined for breaking club rules by using his phone during training: a story that was obvious baloney to anyone who has followed the player's career. Ronaldo, in many ways, is the consummate professional when it comes to improving himself on the pitch. He is not a man for nightclubs or raucous evenings out among the Manchester glitterati and there is something deeply impressive about the way he has come from his humble beginnings, growing up in Madeira in a house so small the washing machine was on the roof, to become the most penetrative attacking footballer in the world. And yet United's more loyal and thoughtful supporters would by now be entitled to think it would be better for Sir Alex Ferguson and the Glazer family to end this shabby saga and let the previously unthinkable happen. To them, his constant prevaricating about his future, his flirting with the Spanish media and his apparent disregard for Manchester United, must smack of a man who has started to think he is bigger than the club. His sound bites have become increasingly strategic, as if he thinks we cannot see what he is doing, yet nobody will have been surprised that the sweat had barely dried on his brow after Portugal's defeat by Germany on Thursday before he had re-iterated his desire to leave Old Trafford - just as Real Madrid had requested. United insist they will not allow themselves to be bullied into a corner but, when a player is acting like this and would so obviously be resentful and unsettled if he is denied the transfer he craves, the question should be: what is the point in keeping him? I am hoping he goes now. United will re-group and still win. He will become the product he obviously wants to be and come to regret it in the long term. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 70 mill for ronaldo??!! I'd bite your hand off!! Link to post Share on other sites
giggsy 0 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Problem with "70 mill" is that it would come in installments and not in a huge chunk of dough. Unless United could pull that off, but I suspect Real Madrid do not have the cash to be able to do that. Problem with ?? mill + players is... do we want those players? As a wise man on the United forums said (don't agree with the "THE best" comment but.....): "Ronaldo is the best footballer I have seen live in a United shirt. I hope I never see him in one again." Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 C'mon, Man U replaced Cantona and he was much better than Ronaldo. Sure they wouldn't be given a lump sum, but that all gets factored into the clubs finances, so think about what Man U could buy with 70 mill plus whatever their transfer budget was gonna be. He can be replaced no probs. See ya later Ronaldo, nobody gives a fack aboutya!! Poisoned little nancy boy anyway Link to post Share on other sites
rach 1 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 United will move on whatever happens and still win. Of course! Cantona brought more to the club than just pure footballing talent, much more. His attitude and demeanor was something that was a catalyst for the club's success at a crucial time. Whether he was much better in terms of footballing skills than Ronaldo is debatable (?). United didn't replace him directly in the same way they won't be able to replace Ronaldo with someone who fits in. But they will adapt and still be the best! I'm increasingly disappointed with all this and the attitude he apparently has. Looking forward to what he has to say. I still reckon he will end up another year at United. Well, maybe. (In the stands?) I'm really looking forward to seeing Sir Fergie do his stuff in the next month. Lets get Messi! Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted June 22, 2008 Author Share Posted June 22, 2008 Another great game to watch, and a surprise (well before kickoff) that those Holland people are out. I'm enjoying this. Great tourny. (Ronaldo's just boring). Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Cracking games.. Good job England ain't they - they would only have made it more boring! Link to post Share on other sites
tsondaboy 0 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Holland is out too! Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 Going to watch that when they repeat it at 5pm. Only seen 4 games but they have been good. Lets hope the quality doesn't dip for the last bit. Link to post Share on other sites
brit-gob 9 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Talk about conflicts of interest! Cheeky flucker.. The Red Devils are fuming over Big Phil's role in this saga, but the outgoing Portugal manager has come up with a characteristic 'in your face' response that could possibly raise tempers between the two parties further. He can handle himself Scolari has come out in defence of Ronaldo, and insisted that the winger will not succumb to any pressure that United and Sir Alex Ferguson may try to apply on him. "You'll never break Cristiano Ronaldo - he's the strongest man in football," he is quoted as saying in The People this Sunday morning. There have been reports suggesting that United will get tough with the 23-year-old, and even threaten him with a season in the stands. However, Big Phil insists: "I know Cristiano well and I know the type of person he is so I have no doubts about how he will handle himself in the next few weeks. "People must understand that Cristiano becomes stronger with all his difficulties and the stories about him. I have never known anyone so mentally strong. "What happened to him at the World Cup in 2006 in the quarter-final against England would have crushed many other players - but not Cristiano. "And what has been happening around him here with the uncertainty about his future has not affected him - I know that because I have been with him. "He is so strong mentally and he is in control of his own destiny - and because of that Manchester United can do nothing to hurt him." He was focused He also defended the player's focus during Euro 2008, something that has been called into question. "Cristiano has been completely focused and if I had any doubts I wouldn't have put him in my 23 and given him an important role in the team," he said. "I trust him as an athlete and as a person. "Ronaldo plays for the national team and defends the national team with a great will and that's what I like about him. The secret of Ronaldo is that he is simple, humble and he works for the group. He is a great team member and dedicated to the group. He has a special will to win that I have not seen in anyone else and the other players soak it in. "He also has a special technical quality which everyone is aware of. It is his dream to play for Real Madrid and I am sure Cristiano will fulfil his dream whatever the difficulties." Link to post Share on other sites
brit-gob 9 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Great game Holland Russia. So many goal chances there. Link to post Share on other sites
BagOfCrisps 24 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 He's a cheeky git that Scolari. He will certainly liven things up though. Him and Fergie weren't friends to begin with but this will really spice it all up. According to the reports, Fergie is still on his hols and not cutting short. I can see Ronaldo doing another year at United - hopefully in the stands -and then moving on. Link to post Share on other sites
scouser 4 Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 Thank the lord that Italy are out. They were dreadful, worst team of the tournament. Link to post Share on other sites
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