BagOfCrisps 24 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Originally Posted By: Oyuki kigan You guys are about as funny as a fart in a space suit. Just curious, are you all skiers as well? No. That burger last night was absolutely fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I had some fabtastulastic sausages over summer. Quality ones I was assured, and they sure were expensive, but they were fab. North Yorkshire it was, a specialist butchers shop. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Managed some shallow fried cod steaks last night. Think I'll go get some steak and eggs this morning. Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 207 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Oyuki has inspired me to go buy a real expensive steak today for the weekend. Going to have a real Sunday roast going on. Link to post Share on other sites
sanjo 2 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Originally Posted By: Oyuki kigan Just curious, are you all skiers as well? Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Originally Posted By: BagOfCrisps Originally Posted By: Oyuki kigan You guys are about as funny as a fart in a space suit. Just curious, are you all skiers as well? No. That burger last night was absolutely fantastic. I had burgers last night as well after our meat discussion!! great Link to post Share on other sites
Oyuki kigan 0 Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 Originally Posted By: Tubby Beaver Originally Posted By: Oyuki kigan You guys are about as funny as a fart in a space suit. Just curious, are you all skiers as well? No, I personally don't buy into this offsetting your carbon footprint nonsense. i hope not, because offsetting your carbon and reducing your footprint are two seperate things. Do you mean instead to say that you don't believe in global warming? Link to post Share on other sites
HoTRoD 2 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 My dinner last night, inspired by Oyuki I did cook it of course. Cheers mate! Link to post Share on other sites
frannyo 2 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I think I will do what I can to do something about offsetting my carbon footprint thingy-mujig. (As long as I can still eat meat and run my car, etc). Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Originally Posted By: Oyuki kigan Originally Posted By: Tubby Beaver Originally Posted By: Oyuki kigan You guys are about as funny as a fart in a space suit. Just curious, are you all skiers as well? No, I personally don't buy into this offsetting your carbon footprint nonsense. i hope not, because offsetting your carbon and reducing your footprint are two seperate things. Do you mean instead to say that you don't believe in global warming? No, I believe that the Globe is definitely warming, whether we are the primary cause or not I'm unsure, I can see arguements pro and con. I just don't buy into this government spun..."do this and offset your carbon footprint"..... just seems like a load of spun bullsiht from Governments to get us in a sense of panic so they can control us more. Link to post Share on other sites
klingon 10 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I am going to offset my carbon footprint to sometime in the future. For now, burger time. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Can I maybe offset my carbon footprint thingy to someone else? Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 while others are offsetting, I'll be off eatin steak Link to post Share on other sites
Oyuki kigan 0 Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 Originally Posted By: Tubby Beaver Originally Posted By: Oyuki kigan Originally Posted By: Tubby Beaver You guys are about as funny as a fart in a space suit. Just curious, are you all skiers as well? No, I personally don't buy into this offsetting your carbon footprint nonsense. i hope not, because offsetting your carbon and reducing your footprint are two seperate things. Do you mean instead to say that you don't believe in global warming? No, I believe that the Globe is definitely warming, whether we are the primary cause or not I'm unsure, I can see arguements pro and con. I just don't buy into this government spun..."do this and offset your carbon footprint"..... just seems like a load of spun bullsiht from Governments to get us in a sense of panic so they can control us more. i don't know where you are getting the info that governments are involved with scare tactics. To me it seems like common sense. If you see something wrong, you do what you can. I can't be any more plain than that. We are living unsustainably, a result of the short-sighted expansion of thye last 50 years. We grew up in this rich consumer environment, not really realizing that it has only been the last few generations on earth that have ever experienced such technology. But for us it is natural. Now we have the natural results of such earth-ignorant practices coming to bear down on us. All the poisons and dioxins we have dumped into the food cyclecreated is creating various diseases, all the pollution we have put up in the atmosphere is having consequences. So what do you do about it? Do you WANT the government to try to clean up this mess, when it can't even clean up its own? Because without taking any responsibility and initiative on your own, that is what you are asking for. The issues like reducing meat consumption are extremely personal ones, not governmental ones. They are steps that any person can make to live more gently on the earth. Did anyone even read that article that was posted? The resources that go into creating meat are an artifact of the idea that we have unlimited resources to squander. You children are not goning to be able to live like that. Do you want to continue wasting resources for luxuries like meat or SUVs or overseas vacations when your children and grandchildren will have to suffer the results from the pollution? This isn't rocket science. If you don't want to contribute to environmental degradation, reduce your consumption of items that degrade the environment. And factory-farmed meat (yes, pigs and chickens too) are part of that. If you don't, then keep posting your dinners. Link to post Share on other sites
grungy-gonads 54 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Oh OK here's mine, yakiniku tonight Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 just make sure you have lots Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I am not going to give up meat it is that simple. Link to post Share on other sites
big-will 7 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 yakiniku tonight, now there's a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites
Tubby Beaver 209 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I'm maybe not being clear about what I mean. So I won't try to muddy the waters anymore, but the fact is I don't believe in this "offsetting" nonsense that has sprung up. Give us extra money so yo can feel less guilty about the pleasures you take part in....screw that!! I like meat Link to post Share on other sites
tsondaboy 0 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I had meat sauce pasta last night. Link to post Share on other sites
Oyuki kigan 0 Posted August 29, 2008 Author Share Posted August 29, 2008 Trying to have a serious conversation on here is like trying to find another single in a Japanese lift line Link to post Share on other sites
base40 0 Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 What exactly do you expect, sat up there looking down from your pretentious high-horse? Link to post Share on other sites
Greenroome 0 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Originally Posted By: Tubby Beaver I'm maybe not being clear about what I mean. So I won't try to muddy the waters anymore, but the fact is I don't believe in this "offsetting" nonsense that has sprung up. Give us extra money so yo can feel less guilty about the pleasures you take part in....screw that!! I like meat I offset my flight in May from Oz to Japan through Greenfleet. I paid about 40 bucks and they organized some cubs or girl guides to plant a dozen mixed-species native trees on degraded saline ex-farmland for me, thus re-building habitat for struggling native fauna, removing my CO2 from the atmosphere (over the life of the planting) and increasing awareness of the issue in the community. And you say 'screw that'? Yeah, real nasty conspiracy... Link to post Share on other sites
Oyuki kigan 0 Posted September 1, 2008 Author Share Posted September 1, 2008 Well, even though i think Tubs is mixing up issues, i am a little wary about 'carbon offsetting' schemes. If you are reading this Tubs, it means you pay for someone else to work on a project to get rid of a certain amount of carbon dioxide, to 'offset' extremely polluting activities, like flying an a plane. And i agree with Tubs, it is a little sketchy, because there is not much guarantee that the trees will live long enough to sink the required amount of carbon that you claim to be paying for. They have to live at least 30 or 50 years to do thiat. Thats why i advocate living in a way that pollutes less to begin with. And seeing as how food is something we consume every day, many times a day, it is a good place to look at what is efficient and what is wasteful. And meat is pretty much the most energy-intensive food out there. Which is the whole point of this tread, to make people aware of the problems associated with meat production and advocate eating less of it. An excellent book, which is far from being an arguement for vegetarianism, is "The Omnivore's Dilemma". Brilliant book, and i reccomend everyone read it to get an idea of how f-ed up food production is. Link to post Share on other sites
Fattwins 0 Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 All you will end up doing is forcing farmers to plant corn into crappy fields for ethanol. Going only vegan isn't going to work. The ocean is dying as well so why eat fish? Link to post Share on other sites
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