Probe 0 Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 Can anyone tell me exactly what is happening at Moiwa this winter? I don't want this thread to become commercially oriented. I'm really wondering if it's going to be a lot more crowded this season or if it will function as per previous years. Link to post Share on other sites
neversummer 0 Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 I can't imagine it will change to much. There hasn't been anything happening there that would indicate otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites
Go Native 70 Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 I would say it's been getting a little more popular with each year I've been here but it's still not linked with Niseko United and it's still not that easy to get to so it'll remain relatively uncrowded for the time being. Link to post Share on other sites
Probe 0 Posted November 27, 2007 Author Share Posted November 27, 2007 Thanks. Good that it will still be a quiet place. I'd been hearing all sorts of stuff about new owners , links to Annupuri and so on. Link to post Share on other sites
quattro 1 Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 there web site is down. Or are they just waiting for the resort to open before starting it again Link to post Share on other sites
ausi ski bum 1 Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 I am driving there this year for a few days skiing Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Pow 52 Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 It will be just a matter of time before Moiwa is linked to Niseko United in my somewhat informed opinion. Maybe next season or the season after. Link to post Share on other sites
Probe 0 Posted November 27, 2007 Author Share Posted November 27, 2007 After searching around the web for a while, I did find two Moiwa websites. (The old one still appears to be down) One is the mountain/lift company site. The other is a property development site. I don't want to appear to be pushing a commercial interest, so I won't post the links. ( I have no commercial interest in Moiwa) There's no mention in either site about any major changes to the mountain at this time. There is a development happening but it looks like that may not affect skier numbers too much this season. Link to post Share on other sites
HelperElfMissy 42 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Interesting... I assume that is because of the popularity of the area with foreign visitors - overrunning the place aren't we - we need to overflow somewhere! LOL!! Link to post Share on other sites
ausi ski bum 1 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Sounds th place to buy property now Link to post Share on other sites
SnowConnection 0 Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 On a quality paper web site, the last news about Moiwa was on Sep 7, 2007. http://www.nikkei.co.jp/news/retto/20070906c3c0600m06.html It told Zephyr bought Moiwa ski resort and Hotel Niseko Grand Stage from Watermark Resort Niseko, a subsidary of HIS Co late May 2007. The resort and the hotel had closed. Zephyr plans to reconstruct the hotel to a condo to be sold, and to reopen Moiwa ski resort on 2007/2008 season. Also, they would plan to built 99 rooms of condos by Oct 2008, to built 15 lodges by Oct 2009. However, no news has been about Moiwa ski resort open, and no news in Zephyr web site yet. SC Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 That sounds like a private resort in the making. Like a golf club. Time share condos in Moiwa, exclusive accomodation away from the riff raff, but occasional excursions into the town of sin. Nice. Like to see what it turns out like. Link to post Share on other sites
quattro 1 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Hopefully they open up the resort for skiing there this season. Some excellent stuff there for a small resort. Link to post Share on other sites
Rag-Doll 0 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I just received the sales blurb on the development. Not very original, I must say. I can't help but feel that they're falling into the same trap the Japanese developers did 30 yrs ago with the multitudes of small resort developments around the country. The appeal of Moiwa is the fact that it is relatively deserted it's hardly the place to use as a base or to stay for a week or more. Link to post Share on other sites
best skier in hakuba 5 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I just got SPAMMED that EXCLUSIVE SPAM OFFER as well. I wish those guys would respect my request to take me off their spam list - I never said I wanted to be on it in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 24 mil gets you in. WOW. I must register my interest in not being spammed again by them. Link to post Share on other sites
Probe 0 Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 I just received the same email as you guys today. It seems to me that Moiwa may be a bit small for what they're planning. I guess if they manage to link up with Annupuri it might be OK. Those apartments they are renovating look pretty small from the outside - I'd be having a look at them first and not buying "off the plan". Using the "Niseko" in the new name might help get a few people interested. Selfishly, I'm hoping Moiwa is successful enough to keep the lifts running but not successful enough to become overcrowded. But I'll bet that's what the people in Hirafu were saying in the late 90's before I started going there - so I'll try and savour Moiwa a bit more this season , in case it changes. Link to post Share on other sites
Nisoko 6 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Boycott the spammers. I also did not sign up for it, but got it. Link to post Share on other sites
thursday 1 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 I did not sign up for anything. I had dealings with them in the past so that's how they got my add I guess. Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Pow 52 Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Originally Posted By: Probe It seems to me that Moiwa may be a bit small for what they're planning. I guess if they manage to link up with Annupuri it might be OK. This is the crux. Ultimately if Moiwa is linked to Annupuri and as a consequence Niseko United then Moiwa will become a dormitory town for the bigger area, much like outlying villages in the European Alps. Quote: Using the "Niseko" in the new name might help get a few people interested. The resorts in the area have the prefix 'Niseko' including Weiss and Iwanai at the coast. This is not a marketing ploy, at least not by this wave of developers. Quote: Selfishly, I'm hoping Moiwa is successful enough to keep the lifts running but not successful enough to become overcrowded. The horse has already bolted. I'm not going to pretend that the buy-in price is cheap. But in comparison with ski-in, ski-out apartments in Upper Hirafu they are a third of that price tag. And if you visit the area for 7-14 days each season you won't find cheaper in this area. Link to post Share on other sites
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