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Twistlift Reviews
By Ben Matsuda & Hamish Scott

 

A while back we asked readers if they were interested in trying out a new product called Twistlift.  Ben and Hamish replied and soon were trying out the Twistlift on the slopes.  Below are their reviews of the product. 

 

Many thanks to Ben and Hamish for their co-operation and of course to Twistlift for providing the goods.

Twistlift Review
By Ben Matsuda (otherwise known as Dizzy)

What is Twistlift?

The Twistlift website (www.twistlift.com) describes their product as “rotational meshing plates (RMPs),” and thanks to SnowJapan.Com, I’ve been able to try out a pair of TL45.01 RMPs. The RMPs are a pair of nearly 2-cm thick plates that are mounted between a snowboard deck and each of the bindings. (The plates can be mounted on 3- as well as 4-screw binding systems.) After strapping into your bindings, you strap a chord from each plate to each leg like safety leash. When one of these straps is pulled upwards, a lock in the plate is released so that the snowboarder can rotate the plate and the entire binding, allowing the rider to choose any stance width they want. After the snowboarders chooses a stance and releases the chord, the mount locks in place at five degree increments.

Expectations
I wasn’t really sure want to expect of the RMPs. They looked a little bulky, but the concept sounded great. With the plates, would young groms on the slopes huck ridiculous tricks, switching their stance in mid-air? Or would these things just be an added weight? Snowboarding comes from surf and skate culture as well as ski technology; the sport is based on progression. I was really excited to try a pair out!

Cons:
Just like using new bindings, screws come loose the first couple times you use them. But the trouble was getting to the screws that hold the plates to the board: they are covered up by the bindings (well, at least by my bindings) once you mount them on top of the plates. Taking my bindings off of the plates to tighten the plate to the board was a little frustrating, but after cranking the screws down, the next two times I used the plates, it was no problem.

You can definitely feel the added weight of the plates. Until I got used to them, I found my front thigh tingling under the weight while riding on the chair lifts. I also felt the added weight after hitting a couple kickers. Of course, any extra weight snowboarders carry will affect their riding.

Pros:
The great thing about these plates is the ease getting on and off chairlifts. After coming to a stop and un-strapping my rear leg, I pulled the chord of my front foot and turned my foot parallel to the board - never has skating been so easy! When you first snowboard and learn how to get on and off lifts, skating is really awkward and you just get used to it. Some people like to skate with their rear leg on the toe side of their board, while others find it easier to skate with their rear leg heel-side. Skating is so much easier with the Twistlift plates.

Finding the stance that best suits you is an advantage of these plates. Whenever I pulled the chord and changed the setting of my stance, I found myself resetting the plates at zero degrees, or perpendicular to the board. I’d count how many locks it took to get me back to the stance I wanted. In other words, for a 15 degree-stance, I’d count turning and locking the plates three times, once for every five degrees. Easy!

The plates eliminate the hassle of skating on catwalks and flat sections, too. There’s a bit of a walk when traversing from Goryu-Toomi to Hakuba 47 (between the bottom of Line E to the beginning of the Routes 2 and 3). If you don’t have speed, you have to walk uphill for twenty-or-so meters. Goryu/47 was the first resort I tried the plates out at, so I stopped on purpose at this flat section. Skating was a synch! I flew past all the other snowboarders and was up the slope in seconds. Later that same day, I traded boards with my friend, a beginner. He said that snowboarding with the plates was ten times better than riding with his rental. He wanted to ride with the plates for the rest of the day. Since that day, two other beginner friends have used the plates for a couple runs and said the same - how easy it was to skate with them. One of them fell in love with the plates: she asked me where she could get a pair and for how much.

A definite plus would be if the plates were lighter and thinner. You're nealry 2-cm taller with the plates on your board. I’d recommend the RMPs to

a) beginners as well as intermediate snowboarders and
b) snowboarders who hate staking;
c) snowboarders who want an easier way to maneuver through lift lines;
d) freeriders.

You can easily figure out the stance you like the best, all you have to do is pull, twist, and release! It’s so easy. Skating forward in the flats and near chairlifts is really easy, too.

Thank you SnowJapan & Twistlift.

FYI, my stats:

Height:

172 cm

Weight:

63 kg

Board:

Ride Theory 159 cm (2003-4)

Bindings:

Salomon SXP 4 (2004-5)

Stance:

goofy

Angles:

front +15-20, rear -10-15 with the Twistlift RMPs, front +18, rear -15 without

Years Riding:

14 years

Level:

Expert

Terrain:

60% Park, 30% BC and 10% groomed trails (or as little as possible!)

Peace!
Dizzy

Twistlift Review
By Hamish Scott

When I first looked at the web site for TWISTLIFT my initial reaction was "...ahh...another boarding gimmick. Perfect for Japan!"

Then the box arrived and even before opening it I knew I had a serious piece  of hardware on my hands...it wasn't light. I havn't weighed it but my guess is that the twistlift is going to add about 3kg to your setup. The weight corresponds with a super sturdy product. It really is solid!

Getting it set up on my board took 5 minutes. The aesthetic effect (all important here in Japan) was complimentary...these things look pretty sweet on your ride. It gives your rig a bit of an industrial hardcore look with 2 chunky black plates under the bindings. The release handles come in the shape of wiggling sperm which may or may not be to your taste. I thought it was kind of funky. They do look the part.

Now..the all important mountain test. The snow conditions at Naeba were 30cm of fresh on piste with deeper stashes in the gullies. Basically the test was done half on the groomed and half in the gullies.

The first thing I did after arriving was to point the front foot forward and practice a bit of skating. The most obvious advantage of the product is being able to skate over the flat sections with your front foot forward. I was a little surprised to realise that in fact it is just as diificult.

Finding somewhere comfortable to put your back foot when your front one is pointed forward is not as easy as having your feet sideways. There is also less directional control with the front foot forward...I fell off at one point while skating!

On the first run down I set up a new stance. The time to adjust the bindings was less than one second! Once they locked in place they didnt move at all.

It felt just like having a pair of bindings screwed directly to your deck.

About half way down the run I decided to change my back foot. I did this while riding. It wasn't at full pace but I didn't have to stop. It was really simple and the new stance was instantly comparable to the old one. I thought that this was the best overall feature of the product.

I've been riding on and off for a long time. In that time I've never changed my stance more than once a day and then only slightly. Twistlift gave me the freedom to experiment with my stance and to really compare the advantages and disadvantages of each. For a learner or even someone who has done a season or two, this opportunity can really give you a new perspective on your own riding.

However! The stance angle was all I could compare. For my second run I decided to hit the powder. I really wanted to push my stance towards the back of the board as I'm a bit underpowered in the length department. This would have meant undoing and re-setting two sets of screws and was ultimately the reason I left my stance width the same. The thought of mucking around with two layers of screws was considerably more daunting than adjusting my binding position in the normal fashion.

After jumping into a suitable gully and ending up face down in a powder drift for the second time I noticed the extra weight on my feet. Trying to get the board in to take off position from head down took a bit more effort than usual. The effect while riding was to raise my feet slightly so this may have had a positive effect in terms of snow drag but I really didnt notice. Other than that no discernable difference to performance in the powder.

I was a little apprehensive about the lifting effect of the product. Ive always felt that feet closer to the deck have more control and a "feel" for the board. This turned out not to be a problem at all. There was no difference in sensitivity and performance. I guess this is becase the base plate is tapered out from your binding giving a wider foot touching the board. In theory this should also lessen the risk of pulling the screw holders out of the deck when crashing or snapping your board around the binding mounts as I've done on one occasion.

The snow was too nice to spend much time in the park. I did one run and easily changed my stance to duck which really helped on the rail. One thing

I didn't test was the final rotation tweak when landing a spinning jump. I imagine that the extra weight may make this a little sluggish although its not that much extra. I did notice it when popping 180 ollies though.

A big benefit was also the double chair. I set the binding froward and had a very comfortable ride up with the board on the footrest usually only available to skiiers. Bliss!

In summary the Twistlift is a really well made product that can benefit almost every rider by allowing instant comparison of stance angles. It makes riding the park much easier and riding chair lifts with foot rests far more comfortable. The main disadvantage lies in weight. I think that I will use the Twistlift for at least two more days just to do a full stance comparison. After that I will probably shed the extra kilos.

Hamish Scott (32)
New Zealand Boarder living in Japan.

It should be noted that there are two versions of Twistlift - Standard and Pro.  The models tested by Ben and Hamish were the Standard model.  The Pro model has a weight advantage over the Standard model weighing .78lbs compared to the heavier 1.25 lbs of the Standard model.



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